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Old May 9th 08, 07:22 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
John Kasupski[_2_] John Kasupski[_2_] is offline
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Default Indoor Antenna vs Web Stream

On Sun, 4 May 2008 13:54:54 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

I have my own internet radio and i have a LARGE problem with finding
any users at all, that is why i keep on promoting it everywhere
http://azboradio.devushwebs.cba.pl/ . Currenlty i have one user
listening. the thing is with the AM radio is that ppl skip on the
shortwaves to look for radios, and there are usually 5. The AM radios
have a range of lets say 20 miles (im not an expert i mite be off by
miles)


You're off by hundreds of miles - and often thousands, especially in
the case of clear-channel AM stations at night..

and the internet is worldwide with over 30 000 + of private
radio stations.


You are deceiving yourself, in my opinion. I submit that there are
more people in the world, overall, who have radios than there are
people in the world who have computers and internet access.

Another thing FOR the AM is that when having an
internet radio you need to open a stream to every computer that means
if you are looking for an audience of 1000 people you need a 100mbit/s
connection which COSTS, incase of an AM radio its a wave which can be
received by as many radios as you like.
There is one thing for the Internet one, much better quality!!! And if
you have skill you can make a songs on demand system.


But people sitting in front of a modern computer already have that
convenience available to them. Open drive, insert CD, press play.

Things against the AM radio a

-costy equipment
-the fact that my parents wouldn't like me putting up a large antenna
in the garden


To broadcast it, yes. But not to listen to it. In fact, for listeners
the exact opposite is true. I can hear several clear-channel AM
stations at night using just a cheap $4.99 clock radio with its
built-in ferrite rod antenna. It's also a lot more convenient for
those times when I am not sitting in front of a computer.

The thing is that with internet broadcasting, before you even send a
single byte into cyberspace you have already limited your potential
user base to include only those listeners who even want to listen to
streaming internet audio in the first place. That's a very limited
number indeed compared to the number of users of traditional broadcast
methods, so your challenge is not only one of advertising to raise
listener awareness, it's also a matter of trying to come up with
something interesting enough to make them want to listen.

Music isn't going to do it. Anybody sitting in front of a computer can
listen to whatever music they want either by popping a CD in their
drive, or by downloading music in mp3 or other formats from any number
of sources that still exist on the internet. And talk shows aren't
going to do it because people can also get that on off-the-air radio,
and they don't need a computer and an internet connection to do it. In
other words, there are other ways for people to listen to what they
want to listen to that are a lot more convenient to the listener.

For these reasons, attempting to promote streaming internet "radio" in
this and similar forums strikes me as folly. We're radio hobbyists, we
are all about real (as opposed to internet) radio. We know exactly
what programming is available via on-air broadcasts that isn't
available via internet broadcasting, and where we can find that
programming. In trying to convert those of us who like to listen to
precisely that programming to a medium that does not and cannot offer
that type of programming, you're wasting your breath, and - in more
ways than one - your bandwidth.

JK