"Frank" wrote in message
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Rene Brehmer wrote:




Yes, but Vista takes the cake as the worst piece of crap...

Sorry, but that is simply not true.

to come out of Richmond yet.

Richmond? You must mean Redmond right?


I'm surprised noone's taken them to court yet for selling a
clearly unfinished product as anything but a beta.

So you're saying you can't get your install of Vista to run properly?
Which version of Vista do you have, and exactly what problem do you have?
Frank

I have three different Vista based computers. All of which run quite well
and very few hiccups. See what it seems to be to me is that a lot of people
expect their computer to run perfectly and flawlessly every day, every time,
every second even though they won't defragment their hard drives, keep their
computers, clean, and have a decent level of knowledge about how to install
their programs and their computer.

They don't bother to learn the ins and outs of a computer and its hardware
much less try to do anything with software. I am not a programmer and its
really not my interest or desire to do that for a career or fun. However, I
do know what works and what doesn't and I know how to make what doesn't
work, work and keep what does work running efficiently.

I've been working with computers probably 20 plus years at this point.
Sometimes spending 8 to 10 hours a day working at one. Depends on what I
like to do. Sometimes its listening to podcasts, music, or watching DVD
video on online fare. Other times its word processing, ham software, design
software, and things of that type. Sometimes its just web browsing, online
audio and streaming audio ran through the computer all night long with no
problems.

I've had computers back in the Windows 95 and 98 DAYS that crashed. In fact,
I can't count how many times I had a 95 based system crash and then have to
reinstall everything. 98 was a much more stable system largely because it
was more developed. Millenium Edition was pretty marginal at best.

XP was probably the best version to come out versus all of the prior
systems. Least problems with crashing which meant you could keep your data
and not be constantly reinstalling the software and all your programs.

Vista hasn't given me a bare minimum of trouble. Its all about knowing how
to use it and how to utilize what you have in front of you. For rookies, you
might learn how the Ctrl-Alt-Delete function works that way if a program
becomes unstable due to not loading correctly or operating effectively, that
you can back out of the program and start again. Also, learn in your Task
Manager how to pull out of programs without hitting the programs and instead
find the Processes menu and learn which programs you are running and how you
can shut those programs down just in case Applications locks up. That does
happen on all versions of Microsoft software.

For the Linux supporters out there, it would be a great concept for the vast
majority of system users except that often the software is in no way
interchangeable between a Windows environment and a Linux environment. Not
to mention that Linux leaves a little bit to be desired as far as operator
functions go. There are some speed benefits to Linux especially in program
loading, booting up, and overall operation. Its a faster system. The only
problem is that you have to figure out what version can actually work well
with your system. All versions of Linux are not the same. Ive used Mandrake
before and it was useless for the most part. So I scrapped that plan and
went back to Microsoft based applications.

Its really all about what your level of comfort and experience are in using
a PC. If you don't know, then perhaps you should take a class in basic
computer operations and hardware that way you know what is needed to
actually run it. No matter how easy Microsoft makes the system, there will
always be someone there to screw things up. No matter how good the
programmer is, there is always going to be glitches in the system. Every
occupation I've ever worked in always had its share of problems either with
equipment or those running the equipment. Running a personal computer is no
different