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On Jun 1, 11:33*am, "Canuck57" wrote:
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Your argument is totally ridiculous. The primary reason for Microsoft's
popularity is simply because it is so flexible.
What do you want your computer to do? *Microsoft's OS does it. Who uses
Microsoft's OS? *Everyone. Corporations and businesses alike.
Can't you get that through your head?

You must be a newbie to the business. *This is just history repeating
itself.

Times have changed before. *Microsoft, unless it changes it's ways will be
the next Novell. *BTW, Novell does sell Linux SUSE and would not doubt
NetWare, but is far behind RHT. *In the desktop, I wouldn't doubt Ubuntu has
eclipsed SUSE.

Lets list some tech companies that have seen better days, or specifically
major chunck of their business activitied evaporated in market share
ownership, many which were heavy into workstations:

Digital
Compaq
Sperry/UNIVAC
Novell
NorTel
Bell Labs
BaaN
IBM (PC, mainframes and workstations, they evolved to services)
Amdahl
Wyse
Tandy/Radio Shack
Apple (as in II and IIe but recovering)
Commodore (PET, C64)
Data General
Motorola (MC6802 or MC6809 anyone?)
Zilog
Zerox/PARC
SCO (Yep)
(more that I have missed for sure)

Even Linux has road kill. *Survival of the fitest.

Now I am not saying Microsoft is going out of business. *I am saying it's
price elasticity is shot to hell, innovation has peeked, and market share in
the total market is shrinking. *Linux chewing away at the bottom, and Apple
chewing away at the top represents a major problem to future business growth
of Microsoft. *Market maturization, commoditization and saturation too.

With Vista, there is a market brand damage and the Microsoft can do no wrong
attitude is under more pressure than ever before. *This is likley going to
accelerate.

I will predict Q3 and more so Q4 financial reports this year is not going to
be nice for MSFT as it has to spin a new marketing model to grow. *Which is
what the purchase of Yahoo was all about. *Bill and Steve know their market
predicament and MSFT futures or they would have made such an offer. *MSNBC
is another. *MSFT is a 2 trick pony, MS-Windows and MS-Office.

- Both which can now be economically replaced with FLOSS.

Free/Libre/Open Source Software [FLOSS]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOSS

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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"Billy Smith" wrote in message
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"Dave" wrote in message
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Billy Smith wrote:

How do you explain this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Top500_OS.png

What it says to me is that your corporate and university level people
working with supercomputers *are going to Linux versus Unix or in the
case of Microsoft they aren't going to use it. Thats doesn't mean that
Microsoft makes a bad product for the general consumer market. Linux
does have its use and one of its uses is that it tends to be rather fast
for an operating system. However, if you consider speed anything you
should use Linux. Yet when you use a wide variety of PC appplications,
you will find that they aren't usable in Linux format. You can partition
your drive to use both Microsoft based stuff and Linux or you can stick
with what you know.
For most people, they are not going to use Linux because A: There is no
need for using it and B: They don't have the capability to babysit Linux
based systems. The average computer science grad or expert in the
computer field very well might get some usage out of it. For most
people, they are content in using Microsoft Office or whatever works for
plug and play applications.

Theyr'e not going to waste their time formatting their hard drive to run
a program and system that while being faster doesn't have the applicable
uses that a Microsoft system has. The Microsoft systems have that
advantage because you can put in any XP or Vista or 98 based software of
which I have at least one in each operating system. You can put in any
program that is made for that system and use it. That cannot be said for
converting your system to Linux no matter how much faster it may be. Its
not really worth the time for most people

If you want to put Linux and make it customizable to your system that
works for *those applications then go for it.. For the general computer
user that exists in the general public, then most people go for
Microsoft. They're not going to use Linux and I would venture than
Microsoft is much more recognizable than what Linux has been or probably
will ever be.

Linux is still at the infancy state of the computer realm. Its not going
to catch on all that much for the hundreds of millions of computer
users.

Thats why Mac will never be a viable competitor to Microsoft. They're
still stuck in the proprietary and infant stage. Just like the Iphone. I
would have actually been interested in getting an Iphone but when I have
to use ATT for service, they can forget it. I used to have Cingular and
it was a joke for phone service but also their customer service section
was incompetent at best. I can actually pay my bill through Verizon and
know what I actually owe. Nice concept isnt it.

Macs will never become more than fancy overpriced boxes for graphics
users, game players, etc. You never see that many Macs ever used for
servers, internet commerce, etc. Thats why you can go to the Apple store
here in Louisville and find out that a Mac will cost you 1500 to 2000
dollars when a basic Vista/XP computer will net you half those amounts..
When Apple learns to market their computers and systems correctly and
produce something worth really having, then they will take off. Until
then, they don't have a prayer competition wise.

If you mean is Linux finished growing up and fully mature? *Heck no, it
has only begun. *I suspect it will be evolving well past my lifetime.

Linux is vastly superior to Vista in most ways, you bet. *I place it just
on the heals of XP right now but ahead of Vista. *I will grant, XP is
quite mature, but stagnant. *Where as Linux is still, and will always
perpetually evolve.

The Linux maturity is going to be evolutionary and not the dump
everything change now you see with Microsoft products. *Where as
Microsoft has a grand-batch mentality. *The later can't get continuous
improvement, can't evolve. *Take Vista, is now in maintenance mode. *Its
active development has ceased! *Understand that. *They all moved on to
Win 7 for the next disruption.

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