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Old June 15th 08, 02:40 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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beyond bizzare.. by this logic, every Jap and German POW should
have had a US lawyer and his day in a US court, and presumably
release on bond until his court date


Most of the people at Guantanamo were turned-in for bounty or
otherwise the result of something other than capture on the
battlefield



source ?

The media and public fascination with who is detained at
Guantanamo and why has been
fueled in large measure by the refusal of the Government, on the
grounds of national security, to
provide much information about the individuals and the charges
against them. The information
available to date has been anecdotal and erratic, drawn largely from
interviews with the few
detainees who have been released or from statements or court filings
by their attorneys in the
pending habeas corpus proceedings that the Government has not
declared “classified.”
This Report is the first effort to provide a more detailed
picture of who the Guantanamo
detainees are, how they ended up there, and the purported bases for
their enemy combatant
designation. The data in this Report is based entirely upon the
United States Government’s own
documents.1 This Report provides a window into the Government’s
success detaining only those
that the President has called “the worst of the worst.”
Among the data revealed by this Report:
1. Fifty-five percent (55%) of the detainees are not
determined to have committed any
hostile acts against the United States or its coalition allies.
Only 8% of the detainees were characterized as al
Qaeda fighters. Of the remaining
2.
detainees, 40% have no definitive connection with al Qaeda at all
and 18% are have no definitive
affiliation with either al Qaeda or the Taliban.
The Government has detained numerous persons based
on mere affiliations with a
3.
large number of groups that in fact, are not on the Department of
Homeland Security terrorist
watchlist. Moreover, the nexus between such a detainee and such
organizations varies considerably.
Eight percent are detained because they are deemed “fighters for;”
30% considered “members of;” a
large majority – 60% -- are detained merely because they are
“associated with” a group or groups the
Government asserts are terrorist organizations. For 2% of the
prisoners their nexus to any terrorist
group is unidentified.
4. Only 5% of the detainees were captured by United
States forces. 86% of the
detainees were arrested by either Pakistan or the Northern Alliance
and turned over to United States
custody.

This 86% of the detainees captured by Pakistan or the Northern
Alliance were handed over to the
United States at a time in which the United States offered large
bounties for capture of suspected
enemies.

* The authors are counsel for two detainees in Guantanamo.



Your source is the terrorists lawyers

here is my source

http://www.defenselink.mil/home/features/gitmo/
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/news....aspx?id=14844

You mean the detainees' lawyers.


no.. I mean the terrorists lawyers..

I'll believe them before I'll believe some DOD flack for the Bush
Crime Family.


Of course you would... and in WWII you and your liberal friends would
take the word of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan's propagandists before
the word of the Allies.


You really need to get out more. That's a terrible analogy. Again I
remind you, there is no Declaration of War.

The USA is not in any great danger. When the Soviets were within 15
minutes of wasting both coasts we didn't trample the Constitution this
bad. (My "grow a pair" analogy...)