On Jun 28, 6:49 pm, John Smith wrote:
Art Unwin wrote:
Because they don't know about it nor does the ARRL
Ham radio is not what it used to be. As the older ones die off the cb
talking heads have gained the majority.
That is why you get the same answers on antennas on this group as you
would get from any woman doing her shopping at the mall.
CB hams are only interested in gain or how loud their heckling voices
can be heard over the voices of others but antennas are a lot more
than that for those really interesred in a hobby rather than bar room
talk.

The "protectionism/good-ole-boys-club/religious-devotion-to-arrl/etc. of
the old hams have lead us here to this
stale/dysfunctional/non-progressive/etc. end(s.) The "cb hams" you
refer to are, in all actuality, "appliance user hams." We now reap what
has been sown for decades. We always needed good minds, what we got
were brass pounders! :-(

Gates left before he graduated in college to make a lot of money
WRT did the same thing by not graduating from high school yet the
group here give his heckling space because they have nothing better to
offer.

College or an "education" has never given anyone what the vast majority
think it does. You are either born with the gray matter (IQ) to think
for yourself and be notable amongst the unwashed, or you are not.
Education simply gives a great mind something to do with itself.

Not one person has given good reason why the quoted antenna
cannot work as stated, not one. By mathematics or actually making one
since heckling is regarded as a suitable replacement for true
knowledge now in the present hobby of ham radio.

The proof is in the pudding, a buddy and I have built a couple of them
(he bought the stupid plans, I DIDN'T!), there are much better designs.
And, these designs have been found by industry. See what designs are
incorporated into cell phones and towers, in rfid devices, remote tire
pressure gauges on cars, wifi devices, remote controls, etc.

Ham radio is no
longer on the cusp of invention and the world has moved on without
them.Would you allow your children to listen to ham radio at will or
look at porn on the computer? The words and conduct now are the same
and civility has flown out of the window!

This is a sign of the times--gays marrying, breakup of the family,
foster homes, inferior schools, corrupt politicians, etc. The true
cause(s) of the problem(s) you state are too numerous to mention.
Non-civil hams are only a symptom, not the disease ... and the diseases
too numerous to mention themselves ...

Regards,
JS

John you have it down pat! The bands will be taken over by industry or
the military.
There is no way hams will be allowed to keep the bands after it is
seen what they have done to the
hobby. If you have to prevent your children from listening eventually
it will be taken away just like smoking
in the presence of others
Hams will still be able to use their radio but they wont be allowed to
transmit where it affects others.
Just like singing in the shower It just stays in the hamshack
Art
unwinantennas.com/
where they can practice their free speech rights without offending
others.