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Old July 11th 08, 06:43 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
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Default 2 phase AC to DC supply

On Jul 10, 6:09 pm, raypsi wrote:
I searched but couldn't find anything on:

Using 2 transformers
running the primary of one right off the mains
running the other transformer primary in series
with a large motor run capacitor to phase shift
the primary 90 degrees.
Rectify and filter both secondaries
Diode "OR" the rectified filtered outputs.
This would give me better than double the frequency
As the phase shift would overlap the
120 cycle pulsating DC.

Basicly I have 2 Eico 751 power supplies.
I like to beef up the supply to my Eico 753.

73
N8ZU


Suggest you run a simulation of your circuit in something like
LTSpice. It probably does not behave like you are thinking it will.
Transformers are wound with enough inductance that they look like a
moderately high impedance in parallel with the reflected secondary
load. But if the secondary is loaded with a full-wave or bridge
rectifier into a big capacitance, then current flows only when the
secondary voltage is greater than the capacitor voltage (by a diode
drop or two). So you end up drawing very little current on the
primary side, except when the voltage is near the peak. As a result,
you don't get a nice phase-shifted sine on the primary side.

Even if the load looks resistive, the current in the load is not 90
degrees out of phase with the mains voltage; it's just 90 degrees out
of phase with whatever voltage drops across the capacitor.

Try some simulations with various loads and series capacitor values,
and you'll get a feel for what's going on. If you want, I could send
you the simulation file I just hacked together as a starting point.

Cheers,
Tom