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Old July 13th 08, 10:51 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Default On-the-Radio : The Picken's Plan - How We Can Reduce OurDependence on Foreign Oil ?

On Jul 13, 7:16*am, Billy Burpelson wrote:
Bob wrote:
The problem with electric cars is where the electricity comes from.
In hybrids, it comes from regen


Not quite true. The electricity used by an electric car does -not- "come
from regen" [erative braking]. This is a clever technique to recapture a
bit of energy when braking. To believe otherwise is akin to believing in
perpetual motion. The vast majority of the energy an electric car uses
is from either a power plant [the 'grid'] or from the on-board gasoline
tank that powers an internal combustion engine/generator.

If we all start plugging our cars into the grid, most of that
electricity comes from fossil fueled facilities, and under current
political climate any added generation would almost certainly be oil
or gas fired.


True, but the good news is, instead of trying to control pollution at
-millions- of individual cars, you are controlling pollution at just
hundreds or thousands of power plants.

Nuclear is a dirty word, and so is any type of coal...


Yup...nuclear is tough because the waste is so dangerous and lasts so
long. Now coal...well, that might not be too bad because you are working
with just hundreds or thousands of power plants; and scrubber and
precipitator technology has come a long way. It's waaay easier and safer
to store fly ash rather than nuclear waste.


Variable Demand Generators Automobile Gas Engines
-versus- Fixed Load Generators Electric Power Plants
and Constant Speed Gas Engines.

Automobile Gas Engines are Variable Demand Generators
and as such as the Engine Accelerates and Decelerates
they Polute more and are less Efficient then when they
are run at a Fix Speed and Load.

Fixed Load Generators Electric Power Plants and Constant
Speed Gas Engines do not constantly accelerate and
decelerate; so then can be Engineered to have less Polution
and better Efficiency for their designed output.

All Electric Cars from an Air Polution perspective Polute Less;
while the amount of Fossil Fuels that they consume to produce
the Electricity versus a Gas Engine Car may be about Equal.

NOTE - Gas Engine Cars use Imported Oil versus Electric Power
Plants can use All-American Hyrdo and Coal; and North American
Natual Gas {Just Say No To Imported Oil}; and Re-Newable
Wind and Solar.

Hybrid Cars with a Dual-Mode Power Plant using Gas and
Electric are proven to be Less Poluting and More Fuel Efficient.

A Fuel Cell Powered Vehicle would be even Less Poluting
and More Fuel Efficient then a Hybrid Car.

TIP - Where and when 'possible' Walking is better for you
then Driving in any Vehicle.

Walk for Your Health and a Long Life. ~ RHF
{Walk A Mile A Day To Save The Planet and Yourself}