wrote:
On Jun 18, 3:15 pm, RHF wrote:
On Jun 18, 2:42 pm, Dave wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 08:05:33 -0700, wasatch wrote:
Mr. Bush is about to propose offshore oil drilling even though there is
plenty...
U.S. imports 70% that we use.
- - How to Find Gold : Dig For It!
- -
- - More Oil : Drill For It!

- There is no shortage of crude oil.

Dave that is Factually True
-but- That Vast Supply of Oil is still in the Ground.
-specifically- In the USA for the USA.
-ps- Plus a Whole Lot More Coal Too.

First - There is a Shortage of Getting the Oil
out of the Ground to meet the Demand.
-specifically- In the USA for the USA.
-solution- Drill for more Oil in the USA.

Second - There is a Shortage of Oil Refining
Capablility to meet the Demand.
-specifically- In the USA for the USA.
-solution- Build more Oil Refineries in the USA.

ALTERNATIVE : WALK ! -or- Go Nowhere.

facts are facts ~ RHF
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Nonsense.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...risks0718.html

Solar thermal is already practical, as is nuclear and wind power. The
only problem is to overcome ignorant "drill happy" folks who want to
dump misery on future generations to selfishly avoid dealing with the
global warming emergency before it does massive damage to the economy
and the population of humans on earth.


Global temperatures were far higher in the 30's and 40's than they
are now. Highest global temperature on record was in 1934, according to
NOAA.

None of these catastrophes has taken place. Although the dust bowl of
the 30's and 40's does bear witness to the peak in temperatures in the
Plains.

We haven't seen dust bowl conditions since.

Global temperatures were so high in the 11th, 12th, and 13th
centuries that wine grapes, which are highly temperature sensitive,
were grown as far north as Scotland. In fact, the highly prized French
vineyards are comprised almost entirely of rootstock transplanted from
England and Scotland during this time.

When Leif Ericson landed in what is now Newfoundland in the early
11th century, he named it Vinland...in English that would be
Wineland...because of the expanse of wild grapes growing there. He found
the climate warm, with little frost through the winter, and grapes were
so plentiful and so widespread that one of his crewmates, a German named
Tyrker, wandered into the countryside and was found months later drunk
on his ass with wine he'd made from the local grapes.

All this, despite the fact that the last Hummer dealership has been
closed years before.

If you look at where wine is grown today, it's all moved south.
Gradually since the 14th century, virtually all wine grapes have been
transplanted to southernmore climes because the northern latitudes have
been growing too cold for grapes to grow there. Indicating that over the
centuries, the planet has cooled, not warmed.

It is you who needs to be informed.

Oil is not the problem. The problem is political.

"Nuclear" has been a dirty word since the movie 'The China Syndrome,'
a film often pointed to as a reference in debates where nuclear plants
were to be constructed. As a population, most of what is 'understood'
about nuclear energy production comes from that film.

Three Mile Island was the horror it was BECAUSE of the The China
Syndrome, when in fact, though a meltdown had occurred--some 8 feet of
reactor core was lost--the systems did precisely what they were supposed
to do, and shut the reactor down.

Odd, no one ever talks about THAT.

The problem is not the ignorant 'drill happy' folks.

The problem is the ignorant uneducated folks attempting to create a
panic based on short sight, and snapshot focus on a very narrow picture
of global events. And an overall suppression of understanding of energy
production by so-called professionals in education.