Richard KB7QHC wrote:

I offered an EZNEC analysis that supported (circumspectly) Yuri's
position, but he blew it off chasing rainbows.

I am terribly sorry, with all the mumbo-jumbo going on I didn't see the right
rainbow over the devils :-)

I have to go back and reread the thread (take a vacation :-), I guess some of
the points obvious to me that were nit picked blinded me over the diamonds
hidden. The confusion was that all I had on the W9UCW set up was what I had
published, and you assumed that was my setup/data and kept asking me about it.

I will be making snap-on current probe, which will make it easier to slide
along the element and observe the current without the disturbance to the
antenna and will be a bit different over the thermocouple meters. Just need a
bit more time.

Thanks to all those civil pros and cons, looks like we are getting ahead. If we
can implements the phenomena properly in modeling software, it should be giant
step in properly analyzing and designing loaded antennas and elements. There
are many dBs hidden there.

Yuri, K3BU/m