"Dave" wrote in message
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 17:25:43 -0500, bw wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 03:34:28 -0700, RHF wrote: To demonise liberalism
is to demonise the founding of the USA. Liberalism is at the root of
Americanism. Mike Weiner is a despicable hate-monger.

In that historical era, the term liberalism meant liberty from
monarchical fascism.
Today, the term liberalism is the equivalent of social fascism.

How so? Name a real liberal. It wasn't just the Crown; it was the
Church and the Aristocracy as well.

Obviously it changes. Democritus? Marcus Aurelius?
de Tocqueville? Hegel?? Mill??
Woodrow Wilson?
Today, just about anyone in a western society who can fabricate a cogent
paragraph is more liberal than the equivalent person of 1908.