On Sep 14, 6:44*pm, "Richard Fry" wrote:
"Art Unwin" wrote

I will look at the URL later.

We all know that already you have looked at it, Art.

Now I put the resonance as second to equilibrium as with
equilibrium the need for a ground plane is negated.

"Now" that possibly you might understand that resonance of antennas is
unimportant? (Let us hope so.)
I will not be the focus of a contrived auguement but I will respond
I never said that resonance was uninportant only that it is second to
equilibrium


Also note that none of the Masters which you continually reference has
written anything whatsoever about any "equilibrium" needed for the efficient
radiation of antenna systems, with or without a "ground plane."
The masters addressed thge Universal sciences of which equilibrium was
a staple
They were on the opposing side of capatalism where diminishing returns
and politics govern everything.

2. The characteristics plotted are not related to azimuth, therefore
the performance of a broadcast monopole will not be enhanced by
"tipping." If *it was, AM broadcast stations would have been doing
so starting 70 years ago.
Brown had no reason to isolate horizontal propagation from vertical
propagation and because construction is way more simple relative
to Earth there is no reason to reinvent the wheel.

Arthur -- please note that a vertical monopole generates only
vertically-polarized EM waves in the far field. *Brown had no need / reason
to investigate or comment on h-pol fields from such radiators, as for the
conditions of his investigations they did not exist.

Exactly, a case of diminishing returns thus no funds for unknown
visits into science
A brordcaster accepts the drop out of listeners at the periphary of
their signals despite
the huge area of desired customers
Now radiation has expanded enormously into wireless operations where
diminishing returns rules the industry
since that industry cannot survive with a multitude of dropped
signals. Now "value" determines the feeding of science in an area that
the masters or George could not possibly have contemplated which
raises such statements of yours where your past is rapidly being
overcome by the desires of the future such that you would question the
need. Nothing personal as you are following solely the path of your
experience which has been satisfactory for you to thus the denial for
change. But again you are welcome to your own opinions as long as they
do not interfere with mine and contempt becomes active.

The Yagi method of radiation is a very good approximation even tho
it disregards the weak force as it deals more with total gain versus
the polarity of the field.

"Polarity" is not synonymous with polarization, Arthur. *Please learn and
respect the difference, if you wish your posts to be (somewhat) more
credible.

Yes that is true and is a fault of mine Those knoweledgable in the
field understand
that error because they are looking for the positives and not the
negatives.
But it does not diminish the value of the intent !. For example Wind
shear has come into prominence
because of tragic air accidents. Present day science relies on the
transmission of a polarised signal
where the reflected signal is analysed for distortion. Problem is that
the initial signal is contaminated
with other polarities such that the returns signal is doubly
distorted thus preventing accurate analysis
of wind shear. A small problem or observation of science for which
there is a immediate need which
can be helped by the observations that some would question the need
or veracity of. Credability is built on the memory
of prior stated positions usually put to memory of print. Credability
is always in question by those resistant to change primarily guided
by what is known with the credability of printed matter since they
take comfort in numbers.
Another point Nasa is very interested in the removal of moon dust or
particles from entering space craft. I read that they had partial
success supplied from the emmission from a capacitor. What they were
really seeing was an example of equilibrium of which I talk about
where they were only using half of the cycle provided by a tank
circuit which is one of equilibrium as with a full wave radiator and
the use of the weak field. So sometimes regardless of the perceived
need of the new or change it is knoweledge that is the real measure of
wealth on this earth since its true value never diminishes.
End of my input hopefully I have responded in a way that you expected
or hoped for.
Art

RF