JB wrote:


That is all it can tell you.


Think about it man! What more do you need ... I mean, I really can not
elaborate here, do you have children? Have them explain "it" to you ...

Maybe you know of a secret diagnostic menu for my DTX9900?
If I remember correctly, all they know is RSSI and data errors. Please,
tell me if there are other indications that discern multipath, interference,
or any other reception problem without either sophisticated test equipment
or an analog indication - perhaps a color coded bar graph or channel
spectra that can react faster than the stream filling the buffer. I don't
know how ATSC handles error correction, but being a broadcast stream, I
would suppose only forward error correction is possible.

Most, if not all, you have stated is really quite unnecessary, or
certainly should be, to a REAL amateur ... think about it, what error
correction have you ever had with your analog equipment. What error
messages did your Drake ever give you, your Hallicrafters, your Gonset,
your Johnson (no pun intended on your "natural gear", lol!), etc., etc.
.... however, count on MUCH MORE from digital equipment!

PACTOR yes, but I don't see that with DRM or ATSC at all. How is it that an
s9 signal isn't enough? I'm truly glad to have SSB so I can tell the other
station to resend the file again. The Universe isn't digital. Certainly
not radio. The signal, no matter what modulation scheme you use to improve
recovery of usable clipped and buffered data, is still in the realm of the
analog during transmission over the air. Ok, you might not understand that
if you are only the network guy and all your traffic worries start at the
protocol level as long as the Fiber box is energized.

Yanno', this "all" is getting too long, I feel like I am replying to an
idiot--now that isn't happening, is it?

Yanno', it sounds as if you have problems alright, I am beginning
digital equipment will neither make them better or worse--however, your
perception(s) may deceive you--think about a psychiatrist!


Actually the best sounding mobile phone I ever had was my full-duplex 450
Motrac linked to a mountain top site with wide area direct dialing. No one
ever suspected I was mobile. But that was because my Analog link was better
than a voice grade phone line. Digital is great if you can find the
bandwidth, but great sacrifices and compromises have often been made in
audio quality for the sake of keeping the occupied bandwidth of the RF
channel within limits. What I am seeing on DTV, are stations that are doing
one 1080i or 720p stream on one RF channel with maybe 2 more streams of 480i
(often annoyingly compressed) OR up to 6 - 480i streams not so heavily
compressed. So I hate to disappoint you, that not all channels will be
better than analog until they find a way to do better than MPEG compression
and conversion from an NTSC source.


Wow, the brass pounders would just love you ... let me see, you remind
me of "Art Bell -- Stuck In Times" ... hmmm, that is the title of that
book, isn't it? ROFLOL

Your arguments suck ... you jam technical details into matters where
your eyes would serve as proof enough ... are you taking your meds? Are
you doing so on schedule?

MP3, MPEG, etc., etc. provides a MINOR increase in preformance (well,
not really, but it is a not a point worth arguing, consider this a "bone
tossing") at the cost of paying patent holders -- believe me,
audio/video is SO SLOW Ogg Vorbis is much more than "TOO QUICK" for
available systems/processors ... sad-sad-pitiful-look

Yanno', as a teenager, I would only wear Levis, it is called "Brand Name
Addiction" ... I am a recovered addict ... I can't claim a twelve-step
program for my recovery, but hey ... LOL

The move to digital cellular allowed channel re-use without having the
customer hear interference from co-channel sites so that many sites could be
used to communicate with many small handsets. Do you think that will be
much of an issue on Ham radio? Ham radio's greatest protection is in the
fact that it isn't supposed to compete with other services. No privacy is
needed or allowed either. If you copy the consumer model, you have no
amateur radio anymore. So I ask you sir, wouldn't you rather be using a
digital cell phone and leave the ham bands alone? Experimentation will
continue and things will be learned, people will contest and rag chew and
chase DX, but when ham radio for free is simple enough to compete with cell
phone services or a twisted pair, there will be a problem.


Comparing analog to digital is almost an exact example to some idiot
attempting the comparison of a stone knife (obsidian actually) to a
LASER Scalpel ... I just don't know how to state that with more force
and certainty ... perhaps someone will get through to you at some future
date ... all you look like to me is an ignoramus with little knowledge
.... and living in "yesterday" -- sad really, very sad ...

If you ever awaken from that "tomb of stupidness" you are entombed in, I
bet you will be one embarrassed guy!

I'd say, you are just a "Stupid Brass Pounder" and an "arrl wannabe" ...
but then, I am guessing--I have no real psychic abilities ... ROFLOL, AGAIN!

Thanks for the laughs ...

Regards,
JS