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Old September 17th 08, 06:30 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Jeff Liebermann[_2_] Jeff Liebermann[_2_] is offline
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Default Equilibrium and Ham examinations

On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:38:29 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin
wrote:

Truth is stranger than fiction and what I am saying is the truth or
factual.


Assertion does not constitute proof. Speaking strictly for myself, I
really don't care what you think, advocate, imply, or suggest. What I
do care is the reasoning behind your thinking, your advocacy, etc.
Simply stating that something is right, wrong, or works in some manner
is insufficient. Unless you're an established authority on the topic
of antenna design, I have no intention of accepting your rants at face
value.

In all the years that I have been on this group nobody has proved me
wrong
with respect to radiation.


That's easy to understand. You haven't said anything. There's no
substance to your "explanations". I can't argue against an
insubstantial fog or cloud, and neither can anyone else. No models,
no measurements, no tests, no numbers, no nothing. Besides, it's not
my position to prove that you are wrong. It's your job to convince us
that you're correct. We pass judgement on your ideas, you do not. Of
course, you're always welcome to pass judgements on my qualifications
to make such a judgement.

If they had I would have apologized for the
record.


I should hope so. I've been wrong a few times. It happens.
http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?hl=en&enc_user=bLQuYRAAAACBvdjA7WBXQw3w3fq wxHRj
http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?hl=en&enc_user=tWGMphwAAAAGTj9X4k0U7wKkGyU 8QhaBhaxMG2M1PWkMtCZAt5tdxQ
Hmmm.... 24,000 postings. Maybe I should find something more
productive to do.

For myself I can run all of these people out of town on antennas as
they are all self perceived experts
bestowing glory on them selves in retirement to supply the recognition
they feel they earned in the past.


Wow. I'm not retired yet, but I'm not worried. You would have no
trouble running me out of town with your expertise on antennas. I'm
still learning and probably will never be an expert. I read the NEC
mailing list. I dabble with EzNEC and 4NEC2. I designm model, and
build some rather odd microwave antennas. I have two antenna related
products to my name from about 20 years ago. Not quite an expert but
sufficiently functional to hold my own:
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/antennas/
Note: I did *NOT* design the commercial antennas shown.

Find an expert for yourself and ask him the same questions that you
ask of me.


I only asked one question. What do you mean by equalibrium and what
is being balanced against what else. No expert or beginner could
answer that. Only you can.

My statements are nothing special and nor am I


Actually, your statements initially appeared quite special to me. I
was serious when I asked what program you used to generate your rant.
I couldn't believe that anyone intentionally wrote such a word salad.
I suspected there was some software behind it. I even attempted to
duplicate the feat by hand (and failed). Your statements are special
to me for no better reason than I failed to mimick the style.

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