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On Sep 17, 6:01 pm, Cecil Moore wrote:
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... I disagree since empty space is
also "nothing" as defined in this universe. Empty space,in locii where
the exotic paricles do not exist, needs no structure. It is that
without structure.
You need to update your knowledge to the 21st century.
"Empty" space has been proved not to be empty and
therefore not "nothing".
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73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Please show me the reference that proves empty is not nothing and I
will prove by definition of the word empty that empty is not
something. This is true even in the 21st centruy.

I think what he means and hasn't said is "Nothing can be truly empty".
Period. No matter what you do.

Although extracting energy through the Casimir effect can cause a very
small space to have lower that normal foam in it. It's due to very
short spacing constraining the longest wavelength allowed in between the
plates. Which is not really different than the normal ways things
temporarily can change entropy in a volume.

tom
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