On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:09:57 GMT, "JB" wrote:

Yep. Also the bottom of the 1296MHz band went to GPS because hams
couldn't do anything useful with it. Also most of the 220MHz band
went to ACSSB and inland waterways because it was under-utilized and
because the ARRL couldn't get it together on no-code licensing. We
almost lost the 2.4GHz band because the ARRL was going to demand
priority over unlicensed wi-fi operation, but that was averted when
the ARRL directors received a rare dose of common sense from unknown
sources.

Yer crocked! 1296 is fully utilized here and so was 220. People like YOU
who underutilized it and TOLD everyone it was underutilized are to blame for
US losing it!! Did you get a Ham license just so you could use 802.11/g on
channel 13?

Been licensed since about 1964. There was about a 7 year period where
I let my license lapse. Hmmm... I should probably let it lapse again
as I was profitable, happy, and optimistic during those 7 years.

About 8 ago, I setup several scanners and a computah to run long term
statistics on channel utiliziation for a variety of services. For
fun, I threw in some local VHF and UHF repeaters. For 14 daytime
hours (I used 6am to 8pm) median utilization on public safety
frequencies ran about 20%. Somewhat less for various shared
commerical repeaters. However, of the 5 or so ham repeaters I
monitored, utilization was well below 1% (less than 1.5hrs per day). I
didn't bother to do any 1.2GHz repeaters, but I'll guess from one that
I have in my scanner, it's probably even lower. I had no way to count
users per channel per day, but if I did it manually, I suspect ham
radio would also be scraping bottom. Many ham repeaters have only one
user.

For what it's worth, I consider myself party responsible for educating
at least one ARRL director on the realities of the FCC balancing the
300 million wi-fi users against perhaps a handfull of hams on 2.4GHz.

I don't use Channel 13 for Wi-Fi. It's an unlucky number (and not
legal in the US).

Personally, I've suggested that CB'ers and Free Banders be issued
complimentary ham licenses for 10 meters and let them fight it out.
I'll be betting that the CB'ers win. Most of the "new hams" these
days are former CB'ers. With a few notable exceptions, most are quite
nice, but also technically lacking.

Bendict Arnold! Anarchist!! Anti-Ham!! Your web domain says it all!!

Guilty as charged. If I can't be a part of the solution, I'll become
part of the problem.

Incidentally, the LearnByDestroying.com has nothing to do with ham
radio. A college I attended has the motto "Learn by Doing".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Polytechnic_State_University
That morphed into "Learn By Destroying" which seemed to be the
practice in the engineering department. Since graduating with a
rather substantial damage fee, I have adopted it as my personal motto.
If you haven't destroyed and later repaired it, you don't understand
how it works.


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Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558