Art Unwin wrote:

I am begining to believe that there is really no interest in small
antennas

I use small antennas all the time.

So is there really
somebody being hired to produce small antennas?

It would be fairly hard to use a small antenna if no one
were around to make any... :/

Same situation with
hams as they fight at the very idea of the possibility of small
efficient antennas that like the Universities do not want to hear of
the possibilities

Most that deal with small antennas eventually find that there is
no free lunch. This attempt at small antenna perfection has gone
on since way before I was born. Of course, being that you disregard
all previous science, I guess you missed the memo.

One doctorial student at Illinois University in Central illinois
stated that they have so many requests for review of antennas by the
populace it is not unusual to ignore the pleas of the local populace
presumably based on the premise that if it was possible they would
already have done it.

And he is right. They have only had about 100 years to work
on it.

They have teachers way more intelligent than
ordinary peopleand, where one spends most of her time working on
behalf of the IEEE that research or computer operation has to be put
to one side.

Delirious jibber jabber disregarded...

If there really was an interest in diverse antennas instead of
personal promotion maybe our tax dollars would be better spent. Yes,
I write off the University of Illinois as they have never produced
anything as pioneers in antennas especially with the departure of the
log periodic designer that they paid hansomly to hang out there
instead of there own Universities.

And likewise, neither have you.. So where is the beef?

So to sum up puting U of I to one
side, is there anybody in Industry who desires small antennas or
Universities investing time in such things ?.

Yes. But they deal with the real world, not a bunch of conjered up
voodoo science.

When O when is anything going to happen in the small antenna areana or
is the need actually ficticious
because of diminishing returns with the use of such?

You can't polish a turd and turn it into a diamond.
Only people with limited room are likely to be interesting
in accepting a decrease in performance, vs using full size
antennas. The only place you see me using small antennas on HF
is mobile. And while I've spent a good deal of time trying to
optimize the efficiency of those antennas, I have no delusions
of grandeur when it comes to their efficiency vs say a dipole.
I happen to realize that there is no free lunch.

What Universities
in the U.S. that are serious about small antennas and what have they
produced in the last couple of years?

Why don't you ask them. Could care less myself..

If they can't or deny the
possibilities then why fund them?

I don't.

It is your money. But then who
cares, we have antennas already so we don't need anymore
especiually when denial of the new suggests that all is known.

Good point, and I agree. I really don't care. I like big manly
efficient antennas, not air cooled dummy loads on a stick. :/
If you say all is known, I'll take your word for it.
Of course, I know that's not true, but if it applies to you,
it's good to know a man who knows his limitations.
Clint Eastwood would be proud.