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Old October 14th 08, 07:00 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Default ibiquity AM hybrid digital radio provides little consumer benefits


No, HD offers better fidelity capability than analog. (The radio is a
seperate story.)


Capability is one thing, but the tuners don't use
it.


Well, let's not do away with the capability.

No one expects hifi on AM, so it's not as
noticeable.


People's expectations are increasing all the time. It would be nice to
attempt meet them...instead of leaving the status quo.

I dont think they care about stereo, by name...but they care that it's a
lesser quality than FM...and the stero helps it sound better.


The tiny percentage that knows or cares.


They know that FM = better quality...and yes, they care. That's why the
listeners are on FM.

make AM talk and news sound like NPR on FM.


Who cares? If it comes in clear on analog, it will *probably* do the
same on AM.


Wrong, in test with the public, people notice the differnece in fidelity
between the talk programming of NPR and the talk programming on analog AM.

It also removes some (all?) of thecomp[ression that was necessary for AM
analog....and adress listener fatique that occurrs with too much
processing/compression, etc.

Talk radio people aren't looking for FM sound.


NPR's audience numbers have exploded in the last 10 years...while AM's
numbers are decreasing.

Thats an improvement.
Why is NPR on FM stations mostly? ANd why are most NPR talk stations
broadcasting in stereo?
(because people expect it....)


I suppose after 20 years or more, yeah, they've come to expect NPR at
the low end of the FM dial. So?


Does the low end of the dial affect fidelity? Not that I know of.\

Maybe, but people like jukeboxes, if the jukeboxes are playing songs they
like.


Got any ratings on those jukeboxes?


No, we don't have any radio's...how would there be listeners?

Have you checked the ratings for XM/Sirius jukeboxes?

Yes. Less than 1% of all listening is done on satelite radio.....and that
1% is spread out over all the channels.

XM/Sirius has channels that are virtually jukeboxes.


And a bunch of niche formats that don't make it to broadcasting
towers.


That's what HD is doing, bringing formats that could not survive on their
own, back into the market.

HD will never be able to compete with satellite's diversity.


Whynot? If a market has 20-25 FM stations...and they are all offering an
extra channel or 2...why can't it match the diversity of satellite?

Even with all the formats, satellite is struggling to survive.


Are you on th e usenet proclaiming that a failure?

Again, if it's a jukebox that's playing a format you love....then it's OK.


OK being the operative word, vs. something like 'popular'.


I think the misnomer was when people like you expected the HD-2 signals to
become as popular as the main channels within 2 years.

HD FM tuners (under $5000) roll off the highs. The sound stage is
distorted. Maybe they'll straighten it out in time, but what
generation chip are we on now? Third? Fourth?


And getting better all the time.

Technical parameters suggest it's not better (and I believe you
already know that), and listening confirms it.


Technical measurements suggest it is better...andoffers more
functionality...and more choices. All pluses...and reason's why it's not
going away.

*Maybe* that's a station or setup issue, but if it is, lots of
stations aren't doing a good job.


Thats a whole differnet argument.