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Old November 2nd 08, 11:07 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Art Unwin Art Unwin is offline
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On Nov 2, 3:09*pm, John Smith wrote:
Art Unwin wrote:
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I don't see how that could happen except when a charge is released it
produces a
lesser resistance route by ironizing of the medium travelled either in
the initial case
or of a resultant discharge travelling thu ozone.


Regards,
JS

Interesting
Regards
Art


Well, I AM one which can picture, theoretically, the antenna as a
"transformer"; *and, the antenna taking the signal from the feedline and
"properly interfacing"/matching/transforming-its'-characteristics to the
ether (actually, the ether looks like a "spherical turn" of
superconductor which envelopes the antenna, as someone, either
intentionally or unintentionally, mentioned in an earlier post in
another thread ...)

But, as some gurus have pointed out, REAL PROOF for this is lacking ...

However, very ancient material incorporated the ether into theories of
those times. *Then, Einstein, in error, dismissed the ether
totally--then he reneged and changed "luminous ether" to "gravitational
ether." *It would seem the "luminous ether" would be fine, if you only
dealt with photons and/or "waves of photons." *"Gravitational ether"
would allow for much, much more ... in that one point is a LOT to
contemplate ...

It seems to me, that most, past, authors/experimenters/scholars having
been "fooled once" and changing from the ethers existence to its'
non-existence, would NOT take a chance on being "fooled again"--they
began to "ignore" the ether ...

End-point being, there are loads of equations and formulas laying about
which craftily ignore the ether ... indeed, in my younger years it was
not uncommon to find physicists totally ignorant of Einsteins acceptance
of the gravitational ether (indeed, my own education was along these
lines, only later readings on Einstein brought forth this error.)
"They" would state that Einstein denied the ether, and one would have to
go to great lengths to convince them different, if at all! ... go figure.

It is still quite common to find hams will have "NO ETHER!"

And, the point of all that? *We shall, often, need to agree to disagree ...

Regards,
JS


What blows my mind John there is nobody willing to do the math with
respect to my extension of GAUSS
It blows my mind when a ham with a doctorate comes along and supplies
the mathematical proof and the math is denied
by the guru's on this newsgroup.
It blows my mind when hams state a conductor must be straight when
they use helicals in so many places yet despite the denials
they will not do the math for themselves but continue to ask me
endless questions so they can continue arguements.
Then they deny I have such an antenna and an Aussie who obviously
likes to bet offered a wager of what was it $1000 US ?
and nobody took him up on the wager. Then there are computor programs
that push aside Yagi antennas in favor of those
in equilibrium which support what I have found and these programs are
designed around Maxwell who is now arpparently losing favor with hams
tho professionals cling to it dearly. I have no problem with Guru's
disagreeing with me but I did expect a morsel or a small challenge
in at least one area other than look up the dictionary for them to get
the definition of equilibrium. And now we have a man who has written a
book
and preferes to tout this piece of trash rather than do the math with
respect to the radiation all on the basis that what he believes is in
a book that he wrote so it must be authentic. David take note when
your book comes out it may spawn a new science to rival classical
physics. It blows my mind that we have threads that break the thousand
mark on reflections or swr and then get repeated again and again
because of disagreements on the substance Now he is toting a later
edition hoping to collect some money from hams. Give me a break since
he will not do the math that I speak of probably because he can't
handle the difference in units between Gauss and Maxwell. You know
when OBAMA
wins the election on Tuesday hams will unite and declare McCAIN the
winner
John have a great evening
Best regards
Art Unwin KB9MZ........xg