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Old November 16th 08, 06:13 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Art Unwin Art Unwin is offline
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On Nov 16, 11:58*am, "Dave" wrote:
"David G. Nagel" wrote in om...



John Smith wrote:
Richard Harrison wrote:
Art Unwin wrote:
"Could you give a similar description only this time make it a 5/8
wavelength antenna."
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Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI


Richard:


I certainly don't want to engage in a large argument.


Rather, I would just venture an opinion directly related to my real world
construction experiences, and the results from the same:


If there are notable gains from constructing a 5/8 wave antenna, as
opposed to a 1/2 wave--I have NOT seen them.


It all looks good in EZNEC and/or mmana-gal (or, "on paper"), however, in
real world s-meter/signal-reports, "it" does not.


Perhaps I have experienced a anomaly(s?)


Or, put simply, the extra "hassle" in dealing with these extended lengths
is simply "not worth it!"


Regards,
JS


I think that we all should remember that it is the "ART" of antenna design
not the "SCIENCE" of antenna design.


Dave WD9BDZ


its only an art to art its a science to everyone else. *art paints his
antennas with magical mystery jumping diamagnetic neutrinos that levitate in
the breeze. *sounds like paintings like the melted watch and distorted
perceptions to me.


No David, I am trying to lead people away from the idea of break away
elements from the radiator
substance itself. We all recognise that the rotation of the Sun has a
pivitable place in radiation.
It is also estimated that there are billions of particles per cubic
meter here on Earth which came from the Sun.
So what is so wrong in looking for a connection between these
particles and radiatiation? After all we are aware that they will come
to rest on a material that will not apply a bond to these particles
such as a diagmatic material which radiators are made of?
We also know that these particles in flight must have a straight line
projection that exceeds the gravitational pull and possibly this is
the weak force which is acknoweledged in the science community! Yet we
hang on to the idea that current cannot flow in the center of a
fractional wavelkength radiator
purely on similar speculation since it has never been observed or
proven. It just isn't a lot of sense and the ARRL could not care less
relying on a cycle of informing new hams how to solder a connector on
coax.
Good grief
Regards
Art