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Default (OT) : You Can ID the Historically Illiterate by The Way TheyDefine Nazi

On Nov 18, 10:13*pm, Mike wrote:
On Nov 18, 5:31 pm, RHF wrote:







NAZI = "The-N-Word" of any Political Discussion.


NAZI = SOCIALIST = MARXIST = COMMUNIST = BAD PEOPLE


NAZI = FASCIST = SKINHEAD = NEOCON = BAD PEOPLE


Looks like "Neocon" has become the new name
calling word for 'nazi' in the 21st Century.


Plus calling some one a "Neocon" has those
subtle Anti-Jewish undertones -and- "Neocon"
has a decided Anti-Israel-Zionist Overtone.


just say no to 'nazi' type name calling ~ RHF
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Roy,

Real Nazis represent one of the most evil forces in history. You are
right that anyone that anyone that suggests that a Neocon is the same
as a Nazi is clearly exaggerating. Here's the way it really is:

Neocons embrace conservatism. Nazis also embraced conservatism, but in
a very extreme form of statist nationalism. Think neocon on steroids.
While most neocons are not racists, many of their positions on
national patriotism, national security, and the importance of security
over individual freedoms, are definitely pointed in the same fascist
direction that the Nazis started with.

Liberals are not the same as Marxists or Socialists. But, just as the
neocons are moving in the same direction as Nazis, the liberals are
more like Marxist or Commies than Nazis. A Marxist is like a liberal
on nasty steroids. Nazis are the opposite of Marxists or Socialists.
One of Hitler's first steps toward World War was to burn down the
Reichstag and blame it on the Commies and Socialists. The Nazi
Fascists fought against the Soviet Marxists in WW2. It is estimated
that 25 million Marxists died fighting the invading Fascist Nazis.
Anyone that calls a Commie Marxist a Nazi or a Fascist is attempting
to re-write history.

So, neocons are not fascists and liberal are not Marxists. Both
extremes are undesirable. Unless real American stand up to these
foolish exaggerations, the people that distort history for their own
political ends will prevent the people of this nation from uniting and
really dealing with our societal problems.

Obama is not a Marxist and I don't think most neocons (with the
possible exception of Dick "Shotgun" Cheney) are Nazis. Let's stop
this foolishness and realize that such hyperbole is a clear indication
of a crackpot.

I'm willing to bet that I'm the only one in this thread that has
actual college degrees in Government and Public Affairs.

Mike- Hide quoted text -

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Well. the Nazis fighting the Communists isn't evidence of them being
a great deal different. When Ribbentrop went to Moscow to deal with
Molotov, and agree to both invade Poland with their forces and split
it between them, he returned to Berlin and reported, "We can deal with
these guys, they are just like us". They also aggreed to split up
Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, and Romania into Nazi and
Soviet spheres of influence for take over by the two dictatorships.
The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact (also known as the Hitler - Stalin Pact
and other titles) remained in effect until Nazi Germany invaded the
Soviet Union on June 22, 1941 in Operation Barbarossa.

The only thing stopping the Nazi Germany from working together with
the Soviet Union in the end was Hitler's megalomania. Otherwise, WW
II could have turned out very differently. Perhaps in a way none of us
would like to imagine. Stalin was in a state of shock that Hitler
broke their pact, and attacked. It took him some days to recover his
composure and start to act.
Even Communist countries can fight against each other. It's the
"Party" of one country against the "Party" in the other,.
To the little man in the street, one dictatorship is little
different from the other.

Naziism/Fascism vs. Communism. They are both "Total
Government" .... Totalitarianism. Kissing cousins.
Both of them step on the freedom of the citizens. Destructive of
Liberty.