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Old November 25th 08, 03:33 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave,alt.religion.christian,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.republicans,alt.news-media
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David Hartung writes:

David Dave wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
Dave wrote:
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§tarkiller© Another youngster not old enough to have
experienced the Carter
§tarkiller© administration no doubt.

You are not a good mind reader. Carter's ineptness pales next to
Bush's.

§tarkiller© Not to worry though. It is likely you may see
another Carteresque
§tarkiller© presidency shortly.

Perhaps, but it is hard to imagine it could be worse that Bush.

Read some history. I can give you a good reading list to see the truth
about the criminal incompetence of Bush.
Contrary to the Reaganite Revisionist version of history, it was
Jimmy Carter who maneuvered the Soviets into a prolonged war in
Afghanistan. (Reagan was the one who let Osama go the Dark Side.)

Your source for this theory?

Robert Gates, current SecDef.
The CIA begins covert action against the Communist government in
Afghanistan, which is closely tied to the Soviet Union. Some time
this year, the CIA begins training militants in Pakistan and beaming
radio propaganda into Afghanistan. By April 1979, US officials are
meeting with opponents of the Afghan government to determine their
needs. [Blum, 1995, pp. 344] Robert Gates, who will become CIA
Director in the early 1990s, will later recall that in a meeting on
March 30, 1979, Under Secretary of Defense Walter Slocumbe wonders
aloud whether there is “value in keeping the Afghan insurgency
going, ‘sucking the Soviets into a Vietnamese quagmire.’”
[Gates, 1996, pp. 145] In March 1979, there is a major revolt in
Herat province, and in June and August there are large scale army
mutinies. [Cooley, 2002, pp. 5] President Carter will formally
approve covert aid to opponents of the government in July (see July
3, 1979), which will result in a Russian invasion in December (see
December 8, 1979)."
http://www.historycommons.org/contex...aafghanist an


David Very interesting, Thank you.

Steve Coll wrote a wonderful book called "Ghost Wars" about the whole
Afghan/Soviet era, and a bit beyond. I cannot recommend it enough.


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