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Old November 25th 08, 06:51 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Art Unwin Art Unwin is offline
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Default information suppression by universities

On Nov 25, 11:26*am, Jim Lux wrote:
Art Unwin wrote:
Many of us have checked the net for the latest advances in antennas.
Advances are usually arrived at public university research units some
of which are partially funded by outside sources *Most, if not all,
the results are presented to the IEEE as a way of getting recognision.
But this information such as advancement in science is not provided to
the public even tho they came from a public institution. Thus you
cannot access it on the net as a member of the public as access is
with held UNLESS
you hand over some money to the IEEE. Why are the universites not
sharing their work with the public?
Is it because academics feel they are part of a special club divorced
from the public? Ofcourse I may be wrong
in taking that view in light of the fact that these study results are
available in libraries but why are they not put on the web for the
good of science and the general public at large?
Art


This is a complex issue and one of considerable debate within those
universities AND the publishers of the journals.

1) The journals have operating costs (someone has to edit them and do
the typesetting and production).. these must be paid by subscription
fees and page charges from the author. *Giving it away for free means
that other means must be developed for funding.

2) Not all the funding for research comes with a "must release to
public" clause. *For instance, you might get a grant to defray part of
the cost of some research, and fund the remaining part out of your own
assets. *The granting agency gets the data they want (at a lower cost
than paying for all of it), but you retain the rights.

3) Putting stuff on the web isn't free.

However, a LOT of newer research IS being published for free on the web.
PLOS (Public Library of Science), PubMed, arxiv, etc. are all examples.

Remember, too, that this is academia, and they tend to be conservative
and change slowly. *To a certain extent, it IS an exclusive club,
because publication leads to promotion, and the publication process is
full of gates and wickets. *The term "publish or perish" did not arise
out of thin air.


Well said !
It pleases me that it is a subject of debate. If the publishing is
part of the business
then ofcourse the market decides whether it is read or not. One would
have thought that public universities would
also publish the benefits of their work for all and thus advertise the
high standards of the university.
From a ham radio point of view we have the ARRL organization but the
do not seem interested in advances in the science
even tho they have the vehicle (QST) to keep its members up to date.
But it is not the private institutions that I point the finger at but
the public institutions
who now take on a mantle of private business by forcing students to
buy high price text books where their is a feed back to them or
increasing tuition costs that doesn';t seem to marry with the present
market but yet are paid for by public funds. I suppose that the
present state of affairs will continue if academia doesn't peruse the
web or publish their thesis even tho they actually belong to the
institution. In the mean time I am happy to make a over 100 mile round
trip to a suitable library to spend a day reading on the premises as I
am not allowed to visit Roswell.
Thanks for your input
Regards
Art