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Old November 28th 08, 04:12 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave,alt.religion.christian,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.republicans
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Default The Separation of Church and State in America Today.,

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Sorry Hartung, but you get told over and over by
several who answer you----that either you're one of the
most ill-infomed idiots on the usnet, or you're
pretending to be.

NO ONE sits by the 700 club channel recording Robertson
take credit for keeping hurricanes from hitting the SE
seaboard coast----but the PUBLIC RECORD has recorded
it, reported it, and laughed about it

THere isn't a week that goes by that Roberston doesn't
attribute the deviance from HIS interpretation of
dispensationalism to be the cause of "gods wrath" and
THAT gets reported and aired in the media

He attributed the Twin Towers on "gays" and god doing
it because we're not following HIS interpretation of
Scripture

Falwell sends out weekly news letters (now his son does
of course) railing against the god-less Americans and
how THEY'RE bringing the misery and woe onto America

If YOU'RE going to be informed, YOU need to find out
what they're saying and use YOUR powers of intellect
(or lack thereof) to ferret out the bull**** that you
automatically spout as IF it were truth

Dobson is famous for his attribution of fundamentalist
religious nuttery into political ideology----even
forcing Neut Gingrich to include his "3-pt agenda" into
the budgets just prior to the Government shutdown by
republicans

"I" shouldn't have to "cite that, you idiot

Any INFORMED American knows it.
The claim was that Robertson, Falwell and Dobson have claimed that
Republicans have the corner on Christianity.
You are again dishonestly trying to reframe what was said..
From earlier in the thread:
Soumay Nonay wrote:

"I've been told the Republican Party has exclusive franchise
on Christianity; it is easier for a camel to pass through
the eye of a needle than a non-Republican to enter the Kingdom
of God."
So you don't agree with the observation that Robertson, Falwell
and Dobson's alleged "churches" are predominantly involved in
politics, particularly the Republican party?

How quaint..
May I once again suggest that yo learn to read?
No.. May I again suggest that "yo" learn to proof-read?

Point taken.


Good.. You've made several typos which I could almost
qualify as Freudian Slips in the past 72 hours..

your understanding of the quote I provided is completely wrong.
Nope, the context which you're trying to misrepresent that quote
with is lacking a few details that I find amusing..

--And typical of a right-wing zealot..

From what I see, you are making excuses.


No, you're the one making excuses, David. You've again deliberately
tried to 'reframe' this discussion to suit your opinion, rather than
openly discussing how the churches led by Dobson, Falwell and
Robertson (eg "Moral Majority", "religious right") have violated
the separation of church and state..


How can a provate entity, which has zero legal authority, violate the
constitution?

You're even blindly assuming that these 'religious' figures
haven't been trying to build themselves 'empires' that have
attempted to force the Republican party candidates to accept
some of Dobson, Robertson, et al's religious agenda..


In truth, I am absolutely convinced that Robertson and Falwell would
like to build a religious empire, with them in charge. Of course in
Falwell's case, it would be Jonathon, jerry has passed.

In Dobson's case, I am a little more uncertain.

If you're going to quibble those facts, then you're not only
being dishonest with me, you're being dishonest with yourself..


The original claim was not that these men are building empires, but that
the Republicans had the corner on Christianity, a claim which borders on
heresy. If these men made such a claim , they would have exhibited a
level of biblical understanding expected of a high school dropout, not
someone with a seminary degree.

That is why I am trying to track down a specific quote.