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Dave[_18_]

wrote:
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 05:38:27 -0600, David Hartung
wrote:

There have been many times throughout history, where the Christian
Church has gotten in bed with government. What specifically are you
referring to?

From the establishment of the Christian faith as
officially Roman and the fall of the Roman Empire, the
Catholic Church and it's Popes were the ONLY government
that most/all of Europe had.

The HRE empire lasted until the rise of the nation
states began throwing off the Rome authority, then the
reformation began using the "Divine right of Kings"

The Pilgrims were EXTREMIST religious nuts who
literally have nothing in common with any known
religous group today----outside their insistence that
THEY should have no restrictions placed on their faith

HOWEVER, once established in the colonies, THEY became
the oppessors, forcing everyone to adopt their views,
punishing those who did not.

(Did you think that the "scarlet letter" was only a
figment of someone's imagination?)

The association of official state religions dominated
Europeans

Prohibition was an American example of religous nuttery
laying the groundwork for corruption, crime, and
eventually gave rise to organized crime.

The entire south was riddled with bible waving,
scripture spouting red-necks justifying their lynching,
segregation from positions of law-enforcment to judges.

Now we have had the resurgence of religious
fundamentalism promoting a hapless (and thank god
whipped) political party into more and more extremist
positions-----giving us a clearer picture of why
religion and government is dangerous.

I think you have the Puritans confused with the Pilgrims.