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David Hartung

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The claim was that Robertson, Falwell and Dobson have claimed that
Republicans have the corner on Christianity.
You are again dishonestly trying to reframe what was said..
From earlier in the thread:
Soumay Nonay wrote:

"I've been told the Republican Party has exclusive franchise
on Christianity; it is easier for a camel to pass through
the eye of a needle than a non-Republican to enter the Kingdom
of God."
So you don't agree with the observation that Robertson, Falwell
and Dobson's alleged "churches" are predominantly involved in
politics, particularly the Republican party?

How quaint..
May I once again suggest that yo learn to read?
No.. May I again suggest that "yo" learn to proof-read?
Point taken.
Good.. You've made several typos which I could almost
qualify as Freudian Slips in the past 72 hours..

your understanding of the quote I provided is completely wrong.
Nope, the context which you're trying to misrepresent that quote
with is lacking a few details that I find amusing..

--And typical of a right-wing zealot..
From what I see, you are making excuses.

No, you're the one making excuses, David. You've again deliberately
tried to 'reframe' this discussion to suit your opinion, rather than
openly discussing how the churches led by Dobson, Falwell and
Robertson (eg "Moral Majority", "religious right") have violated
the separation of church and state..
How can a provate entity, which has zero legal authority,
violate the constitution?

It's not a "provate entity", David..

Focus on the Family is a multi-media empire now..

You're even blindly assuming that these 'religious' figures
haven't been trying to build themselves 'empires' that have
attempted to force the Republican party candidates to accept
some of Dobson, Robertson, et al's religious agenda..
In truth, I am absolutely convinced that Robertson and Falwell
would like to build a religious empire, with them in charge.

And so, you think that they haven't? How did you conclude that?

Perhaps I should have been more explicit.

I believe that these men, and others like them would like to return to
the days when the temporal government was subservient to the Church, and
they would like to be the one in charge of the Church.

In Dobson's case, I am a little more uncertain.

Henh! Heisenberg didn't come into play here, right?

If you're going to quibble those facts, then you're not only
being dishonest with me, you're being dishonest with yourself..
The original claim was not that these men are building empires,
but that the Republicans had the corner on Christianity,

Ask yourself this.. How many non-christians are involved
in the Republican party? Are they a majority, or a minority..

From what I have seen, non-Christians are a majority of both parties.