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Old November 29th 08, 10:19 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave,alt.religion.christian,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.republicans
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Default (OT) : The Separation of Church and State in America Today -question- Is there a Place for Religion {Faith} in the American Political Process ?

CharlesTheCurmudgeon wrote:
"David Hartung" wrote in message
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Soumay Nonay wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Nov 28, 5:22 pm, David Hartung wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Nov 28, 8:41 am, David Hartung wrote:
Kurt_Lochner wrote:
What's become of the Republican Party? Kow-towing to
religious, an evangelical figures, seems to violate the
entire concept
of separation of church and state..
You keep your religion out my government, and keeping the
government out of your religion will follow along nicely..
You might be surprised to learn that I am in full agreement,
although for different reasons.
Without fail, every time the Church has gotten in bed with the
government, it has proven to be a spiritual disaster for the
Church. The church.
No where in the New Testament do we see any sign that the
church was politically active.
These tow reasons alone are enough for me to want the church to
have nothing to do with the government.
You will notice as our exchange went on, I put Dobson in a
different category from Robertson and Falwell.
- This is because Falwell and Robertson's organizations
- are set up as evangelistic, church groups. Their stated
- purpose is to proclaim the Gospel. Thus it is improper
- for them to be politically active.
So by "Being" Religious Persons-of-Faith : The Automatically
Lose Some of Their Basic Rights as American Citizens !
-re- T h i n k i n g . . . . .
I haven't said that. Constitutionally, these groups have the same
rights as any other group.

My judgment that these ministries ought not to be involved in
partisan politics comes from my understanding of the Office of
Holy Ministry. Ordained ministers have been set aside by God for
the purpose of proclaiming His kingdom.
- Partisan politics is outside their scope.

Are they any less Human ?
- - - and your Equal ?

Do they have any less Rights as Citizens ?
- - - and your Equal ?

- This is my belief, others differ.

Clearly We Differ ~ RHF
.

If they are to be active politically, they cannot keep tax free
status.

Incorrect.

That is a rule of relatively recent vintage, and one which should
be done away with.

Despite the fact that I believe it inappropriate for a minster of
the Gospel to involve himself in partisan politics, he still has
that right.


As a matter of fact the change was made by one power-hungry Texas
Senator by the name of Lyndon Johnson in 1954 so he could get
re-elected.

We've had 3 really bad presidents in my lifetime, LBJ, Bill Clinton
and now Barack Obama.

Sir Charles the Curmudgeon


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