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Old December 21st 08, 04:08 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Default Eduardo - Serious Question For You

On Dec 20, 11:42*pm, wrote:
On Dec 20, 11:19 pm, wrote:





On Dec 20, 9:32 pm, PocketRadio wrote:


On Dec 20, 7:23 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:


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What about iBiquity? *Are they not deeply in dept? *It's one thing for
stations to see a return (if that's really happening as a "national
Hindi network" has very limited appeal) it's another for investors to
receive a return on their huge investment.


You have to separate iBiquity from the stations. iBiquity has relatively
little debt, and is financed with burn capital like most startups.


The radio stations are willing to continue HD programming, as they did for 3
decades with FM, in the hope the system will be more valuable.


It's hard to believe that
HD radio is holding on by anything but a thread. *With less than 1
million radios sold after 6 or 7 years, and nothing new on the
horizon, how could anyone be persuaded by iBiquitys description of HD
radio as "Exciting"?


The low power chipsets are shipping, so 2009 should see both more varied
programming and new radios.


Realistically, to compare the iBiquity HD radio start-up to a
biomedical firm start-up doesn't make sense either. *There’s lots of
discretionary money available for biomedical start-ups (I know because
I work for a pharmaceutical company) but broadcasting is another thing
altogether. *Based on what I now about iBiquity they were convinced
that HD radio would be ubiquitous by now. *I believe Bob Struble
boldly said that by 2009 / 2010 HD radio would be the norm. That
hardly seems likely to happen.


New FMs are still going on with HD, showing the interest. There was a lot of
HD enthusiasm at the NAB in Austin. And much of the startup money came from
radio itself... and technologt vc firms.


Trust me, I’m not trying to corner you but finding the truth is
difficult. *Ibiquity is not a reliable source and most other sources
are very guarded on the subject.


Having seen a number of profitable HD channels, I think that as the
offerings mature, radios gradually come out, and channels are split to do
sub-let niche programming like the Hindi thing, there will be lots of
reasons to be happy with HD.


"New FMs are still going on with HD, showing the interest. There was a
lot of HD enthusiasm at the NAB in Austin."


"NAB Radio Show Report" September 22nd, 2008


"There was continued top-down advocacy of HD Radio from David Rehr,
but little support from attendees, and even small signs of revolt on
the subject. It was good to see the clear disconnect on this issue, as
it is forcing radio’s leaders to look more diligently toward viable
solutions that fit the demands of today’s consumer, rather than
depending on a delegated entity to secure radio’s longevity."


http://tinyurl.com/4ynxyk


Oh, really?


I heard that at the last NAB convention HD radio had little support
also - just a few very vocal nuisances. *Most attendees just put up
with them.


Eduardo,
Another thing I'm have trouble with is the statement that 90% of the
country is covered by HD radio. *Since most markets have 20 to 30 AM
and FM stations (at least) to choose from and if only a few (say 10%)
are transmitting HD how does that translate to 90% national
coverage? * Your position is bit misleading and almost sounds like a
typical iBiquity spin statement. *Unless you mean that if you can hear
ANY HD station, even if it transmits to Hindi Nationals, you have
access to HD radio and are therefore covered. *That's just plain
bogus.

90% coverage really doesn't mean much except to maybe distort
reality. *I, in fact, must live in the remaining 10% that isn't
covered by a local HD station and I only live 60 miles from
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"Who (whom?) do you trust?"

"Well… as I have stated before, Ibiquity’s numbers for total multi-
cast (HD-2) formats cannot be trusted. It’s not true. Those are
inflated false figures, that would disappoint and anger any consumer
investing in an HD radio. For Buffalo, NY… their website states that
there are 13 stations broadcasting in HD (one of those being AM), with
a total of 24 stations multi-casting in HD-2 (seperate format). It’s
not true. I wish they would read this! They are spreading lies. And I
as a concumer am not happy about it. Only 11 total FM stations in
Buffalo are really broadcasting in HD… and only 4 of those have a
separate multi-cast HD-2 format on the air. A few others have an HD-2
'feed' but… they are broadcasting the same format as their ‘main’
analog (i.e. HD-1) station format. A message to the President/CEO of
iBiquity: You want to gain the trust of the consumer, then update your
website so that it rings of truth and not lies."

http://hdradioblog.info/hd-radio-new...m-do-you-trust

iBiquity is lying about the numbers.