On Jan 11, 6:26*pm, Cecil Moore wrote:
Art Unwin wrote:
The books state that a photon is a particle without mass.

Photons have no *rest* mass but since they must necessarily
move at the speed of light in a medium, they indeed do have
mass because of their momentum. The mass of a photon is
equal to Planck's constant divided by (the product of the
speed of light times the wavelength), i.e. m=h/(c*lamda).

The photon as a particle cannot be a wave since its extremities cannot
be determines as with a particle.

On the contrary, double slit experiments prove that a single
photon can go through both slits and interfere with itself on
the other side. If you design a test to prove a photon is a
wave, it will respond like a wave (even if it is a single photon).
If you design a test to prove a photon is a particle, it will
respond like a particle. The duality is related to the
uncertainty principle.

The main point is that the physical manifestation of RF
electromagnetic fields are clouds of photons. The fields and
the photons are the same thing. Those EM fields have been proven
to be quantized. Photons are the particles that quantize the EM
field.
--
73, Cecil *http://www.w5dxp.com

Well there you go Cecil I am out in left field when I move away from
the presence
of particles which probably are Neutrons as we know the Sun is
directly linked.
I have made my point and I have Richard H, David and RF whatever his
name or call is
firmly in the archives that will impale them. Roy has avoided
everything probably because of his commercial interests so he will not
declare where he is on the subject tho it is possible that the future
will declare his reluctant in other ways. As for the others they were
not around in the old days so they cannot be grouped with the others.
I will leave it to the future hams to determine what manner of men
technical or otherwise that they really are when the true facts are
discovered by doers as opposed to talking heads.I didn't need the
series of a 1000 posts per thread to fully expose them for what they
are as being resistant to change or just ignorant, certainly lazy.
Sooooo, I have achieved what I set out to do and that was to expose
them
I wonder where the next barney comes from or who it is directed at.
One thing we do know is
that they are not happy without the ability to attack so it certainly
will happen.
Best regards
Art