"JB" wrote in message
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The vehicle bonding and grounding is more important than the aerial part
IMO.

- 73 de Mike N3LI -

The frame is the only substantial ground and certainly most effective for
40
meters. Use of the corners of the vehicle might actually get you a
counterpoise on 20. What you really need is a trailing wire, dragging a
cast iron stove.

Ah! The most fervent counterpoise argument I can recall.