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Old April 18th 09, 10:03 AM posted to alt.radio.family,rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner,misc.legal,alt.politics
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Default cb radio in Canada

On Apr 18, 4:57*am, radioguy wrote:
No it isn't unsafe. Talking on two way radios while
driving helps people avoid accidents...

it is unsafe. *ny law deems it so.
Federal law overrides new york law...

nope. ny traffic laws rule for roads running thru ny.


and there you have it everyone. Anonymous said New York law overides
and overrules federal law

which means that

under New York state law, you are NOT allowed to do what the federal
government by law REQUIRES you to do.

(the purpose of the amateur radio service as listed in part 97)

even thogh the federal government has consistently ruled that federal
law overrides and overrules all state laws.

Because New Tork state law overrides anything the federal government
rules.

I don't believe for a second that a cop who gets a call
on the radio while driving doesn't answer

what you believe is irrelevant. *when you drive in ny, you
will obey ny traffic laws, or you will go to jail. *period.


your law contradict fedeal law. By FEDERAL the FEDERAL government
REQUIRES hams in all fifty states to do things you say are illegal to
do.

There are no such statistics.

ask the insurance companies. *they'll show you the stats.


You're getting your supposed cell phone statistics mixed up with cb
and ham radio statistics. They are two completely different things.

And statistics show there is no higher risk from using two way radios
while driving then if you didn't.

And if there are such statistics proving there is a higher risk, then
ALL built-in AM/FM car radios should also be against the law in New
York state since trying to tune those while driving are MUCH MORE
DANGEROUS than using a two way radio while driving.

Or tuning a two way radio while driving.

The builtt in AM/FM car radios are mucg more dangerous since you have
to take your eyes off the road and bend over to tune them. And take
off your seat belt to even reach them to tune the built-in car
radios.

I'm not Canadian.

then you have no excuse.


wrong. It's completely legal in my state. And under federal law. and
federal law REQUIRES things you say are illegal.

Also under law you are REQUIRED to have a working mobile ham radio in
your car if you have ham plates
And if you do, FEDERAL LAW REQUIRES hams to use it while driving, in
certain situations.

But you say new york state law overrules and preempts federal law
even
though the federal government has consistently ruled in many cases
that federal law overrules and preempts all states laws.

Of course going by what you posted so far, you'll then say those
consistent rulings by the federal government in all the many cases so
far that federal law always overrules and preempts state law isn't
valid since New York state law ALWAYS overrules and preempts any
federal law the *federal government ever makes.

types like you need to have your driver's license revoked,
and spend 5 years in a ny prison cell.


Wrong. It's completely legal in my state. And hooked to my car in a
way that can not easily be uninstalled since that was the only way to
install it according to what the radio instruction manual said.

Besides, if you have ham plates, then under law, you are NOT allowed
to uninstall the ham radio from your car.

And if it's installed, under FEDERAL LAW, you are REQUIRED to use it
while driving, in certain situations/

then again you'll say New York state law overrules and preempts
federal law and that you are NOT allowed to do what the FEDERAL
government by law REQUIRES you to do.

Also if the hams listen to you *and don't obey the FEDERAL law, the
FEDERAL government fines the hams a bunch of money for breaking
federal law. In the tens thousands dollars and hundreds thousand
dollar ranges. Something most hams and I can't afford.

And you still didn't answer why the cops in new york aren't arresting
all the schoolbus drivvers and taxi drivers and truckers if it's
illegal in new york state as you say.

that is selective enforcement which is against the law.

You're the reason and proof that enforcement of radio should never be
given to local cops or local governments or state governments and
should only be enforced by the federal government.

There is no such law banning ham radio while driving in New York.

and going by what you posted so far, it's very obvious that

You don't even know how they work.

You think that a CB, ham radio, and cell phone *are all the same
thing.

You think that a CB radio and ham radio just dials a phone number to
call someone else on the telephone the same as a cell phone.

There are NO inputs on a CB radio like you think there is.

so no one using a cb radio has to make any inputs to it in any way
shape or form.

and many other misconceptions you have about it and them.

Of course, next you'll probably say to use vox on CB and ham radio.

that is also AGAINST FEDERAL LAW.

And both CBers and hams can be fined by the federal government for
using vox since unlike with a cell phone that you think is the exact
same thing as a cb and ham radio, using vox keeps the cb and ham
transmitters constantly transmitting from hearing all the sounds
around them, which is a BIG NO-NO UNDER FEDERAL LAW

Of course you dismiss that since you say new york state overrules
federal law.

that STILL doesn't stop the federal government from fining hams for
obeying your new york state law a bunch of money they can't afford.