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Old May 7th 09, 11:45 PM posted to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,rec.radio.shortwave,alt.religion.christian,alt.politics.economics
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Default (OT) : The Question Becomes : Is Torture Defined By The Use ofForce ?

On May 7, 10:26*am, Mike wrote:
On May 7, 8:58*am, "~ RHF" wrote:



On May 7, 5:38*am, Gary Forbis wrote:


On May 7, 4:15*am, "Who i$ John Galt" "Men of the Mind"@Talk-n-


Dog..com wrote:
John Barnard wrote:
~ RHF wrote:
On May 5, 9:09 am, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2009 05:17:28 -0700 (PDT), Gary Forbis


wrote:
On May 5, 1:00 am, "~ RHF" wrote:
Would "You" Torture A Terrorist To Save The Lives
Of Your Family and Loved Ones ?
Would you cut off your left arm to save the lives of your
family and loved ones? *Do you still have your left arm?
If so then do you have any family and loved ones?
One stupid hypothetical deserves another.
Are your blinders *of your own making?
- Would you blow up a nuclear bomb in NYC to save your family?
-
- You beat me to it.


RG - Just How Does Commiting a Terrorist Act
and Killing Tens of Thousands or Millions of
Innocent Human Beings =Equate To= "You"
Torture A (One) Terrorist To Save The Lives
Of Your Family and Loved Ones ?
*.
OH YEAH TORTURED LIBERAL LOGIC !
*.
The Answer is either a simple : Yes -or- No
*.


Conservative logic - Torture works.


Liberal Logic - outing CIA agents is OK unless it's Valerye Plame.


It is? *What CIA agents were outed for political purposes that
Liberals
did not decry?


Liberal Logic - Clinton Assassinating Usama Bin laden is OK but Bush
Waterboarding Bin Laden is a crime against humanity.


Some of this is just verbiage. *Would you use the word "assassinating"
in relationship to what a swat team does to a hostage holding bank
robber?


-*The distinction between appropriate and
- inappropriate use of force is quite important.


The Question Becomes : Is Torture Defined By The Use of Force ?


Not To The Person Who Is The Subject Of The Use
Of Physical Force and/or Emotional Trauma Which
Results In Pain, Suffering and/or Their Death.
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RHF,

- What are you saying?

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The Question Becomes : Is Torture Defined By The Use of Force ?

[ Is the Use of Force the Defining Element of Torture ? ]