On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:59:24 -0400, Michael Coslo wrote:

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All contesters cheat except for me and thee....


So if I go roving, and I don't belong to one of these clubs, will they
not talk to me?

And if they are cheating, and it's documented, why hasn't anyone
submitted proof, and get their sorry butts DQ'ed?

Takes lots of people to cheat, those cheating, and those putting up with
it.

Sorry for the rant, but as a person who runs a contest, I get many, many
accusations of people or clubs cheating, and precious little to support
that. Most of the time the accuser pops up with great angst, describing
the terrible situation, the nefarious cheaters, and often the complicity
of the contest organizers. Then when pressed for proof, the reply is
usually "Gee, I don't want to start anything!"

Not sayin, I'm just sayin'...

- 73 de Mike N3LI -

We're getting a bit off topic here, but ....

The issue is with "captive" (or "owned", as tom said) rovers who will
communicate only with the fixed club station. The rovers don't get a lot
of benefit from it, but it can really pump up the score of a fixed
station by getting additional grid multipliers.

What documentation may exist is in the hands of the club rovers. Proving
that someone is doing this is well-nigh impossible. I suppose a contest
manager could do it by examining all the rovers' logs he gets. But I
don't expect that would be an easy job. And the contest managers are
supposed to be having some fun too :-)

So I agree that a contest manager needs proof before acting on any
accusation of cheating, but in this case I doubt that he's ever going to
get it. (No comment on other forms of cheating.) Nonetheless, that
doesn't mean that it isn't going on. We just can't do much about it.
And those putting up with it should not be lumped in with those who may
be/are doing it.

I hope the squabbling you're in the middle of doesn't dissuade you,
Mike. Keep on keepin' on. Please.

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73
Rich W2RG