On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:28:30 -0700, Roy Lewallen
wrote:

Frank wrote:
The horizontally polarized transmission has its E-Field parallel to
earth. Earth is a conductor (albeit a poor one, but in comparison to
free space, it is quite a short circuit). That E-Field's two
potentials are being laid across that conductor during the wave
propagation to that far point where EZNEC then sums up all field
contributions to present you with the lobe characteristic. It stands
to reason that at that great distance, the wave will have attenuated
considerably - hence the low value.

Removing the short circuit (going to free space) removes this
attenuation.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

NEC will calculate "Space wave plus surface wave" if required.

Frank

Have you tried doing this calculation with a horizontally polarized VHF
antenna? What did you find?

Roy Lewallen, W7EL
I'm not sure what you mean. EZNEC seems to say that a horizontally
polarized dipole seems to have zero gain (-99.99DBi) at zero degrees
elevation regardless of the frequency. So far, I have only tried 14
(the 20 meter example that came with EZNEC) Mhz, 491 Mhz (TV channel
17 center), and 527 MHz (TV channel 23 center). I switched to 527
because I can actually see a channel 23 transmitting antenna from my
window. For those who may not missed my original post, I find it hard
to believe a horizontal dipole tuned to the right frequency (near 1:1
SWR with 75 ohm source) would not be able to hear a signal coming from
zero degrees elevation. In the real world, there are all sorts of
reflections off of all sorts of things that will make it work, but is
it true that there should be no signal if everything was ideal?

Richard explained the attenuation of the E-field. That makes sense to
me, but doesn't really explain the other nulls at 6 degrees elevation
and every 6 degrees above that. There are strong positive lobes at 3
degrees and every 6 above that. The plot looks like a nice flower :-)
I would think that attentuation of the E-Field would explain zero
degrees, but as elevation increased, the attenuation would decrease.
The EZNEC plot looks more like it is showing additive and subtractive
combining of the signal. Another reply mentioned a different program
that calculated ground wave in addition to skywave. Maybe that is
what I am missing. I normally think of ground wave as why VLF, LF,
and MF signals travel further than line of sight, though. Does ground
wave have a significant effect at VHF/UHF?

I'm still confused,
Pat, N8CQV