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Old June 22nd 09, 04:35 PM posted to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,rec.radio.shortwave,alt.news-media,alt.religion.christian,alt.politics.economics
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Default Who Is "Fascist"?


in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, On Sun, 21 Jun, dave said about:
Who Is "Fascist"?


Chas. Chan wrote:


Fascist Benito Mussolini and socialist Roosevelt held each other in
high regard.
Roosevelt was a Big fan of Mussilini fascism because he recognized
that fascism was the only means to true Socialism.

I would by far rather have the Private Sector run government than have
The Governement run the private sector.


War is pure fascist socialism.


To bad you are so brainwashed, cuz you have some
interesting ideas. But you'll never find truth.
It's pure fascisism, nothing socialistic
about it. But that concept is taboo in America.
Judging from your lingo, you've
been brainwashed by the RW libertarians,
probably the LP Libertarians.
What a waste.

Wanna test that concept?
Most people would not, they shift into self
defense mode at the very idea, and close down.

In our specific context; Here's how they do it:
They have re-defined "socialism" in your
mind. Try a dictionary.
Here's 20 of them: www.onelook.com/

Caution: they are similar enough to your implanted
version, you will need extreme critical thinking.

more general info on that:

http://groups.google.com/groups/sear...hors=&safe=off


Synopsis from World Book 1958:
Fascism's parts:
1) extreme nationalism, 2) police state, 3) cultivation
of ignorance, 4) suppression of labor, 5) militarism.


The insane twist the facts to fit their world view.
The rational change their world view to fit the facts.

The nationalists subsidize the defense
industry with no-bid contracts, while fomenting conflict abroad.


Yes. But it's more than the nationalists.
It's any politician under the defense industry's thumb.
defense industry = defense industry's loby.
....Looks like this:

"...merger of State and corporate power."

" Fascism should more appropriately be called
Corporatism because it is a merger of State and
corporate power."
--Benito Mussolini

A
revolving door is installed between the military and the defense
industry and retired generals become lobbyists, consultants, and BOD
directors.


Bingo. See above. - Mussolini
"corporate welfare" see above. - Mussolini

But this kind of corporate welfare and inbreeding permeates our entire
social structure.


Yup. see above. - Mussolini
See also:

Military Industrial Complex Eisenhower:
** "In the counsels of Government, we must guard
** against the acquisition of unwarranted influence,
** whether sought or unsought, by the Military Industrial
** Complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of
** misplaced power exists, and will persist. We must
** never let the weight of this combination endanger our
** liberties or democratic processes."
** - President Dwight Eisenhower, January 1961.

"...merger of State and corporate power."

"...ownership of government by an individual,
by a group or any controlling private powers."

Laws are written to ensure a growing need for prison
beds, now a largely for-profit enterprise. This is why pot will never
be legal; potheads meake great prisoners. They are non-violent and
good workers.


Yup. The merger of State and corporate power.

Our society is totally ****ed-up. I do hope it collapses completely, so
we can have a fresh start. Too bad we just can't identify more with the
Nazis; their lesson is a good one.



Synopsis from World Book 1958:
Fascism's parts:
1) extreme nationalism, 2) police state, 3) cultivation
of ignorance, 4) suppression of labor, 5) militarism.

cultivation of ignorance?

Karl Rove answers:
"As people do better, they start voting like Republicans
-- unless they have too much education and vote Democratic,
which proves there can be too much of a good thing."
--Karl Rove, February 19, 2001


"We stand for the maintenance of private
property... We shall protect free enterprise as the
most expedient, or rather the sole possible
economic order."
Adolph Hitler


" Fascism should more appropriately be called
Corporatism because it is a merger of State and
corporate power."
Benito Mussolini (1883-1945), Fascist Dictator of
Italy


" The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the
people tolerate the growth of private power to the
point where it becomes stronger than the
democratic state itself. That in its essence is
fascism - ownership of government by an
individual, by a group or any controlling private
powers. "
President Franklin Delano Roosevelt - on the
threat to democracy by corporate power




Wisdom from 1938:

"The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people
tolerate the growth of private power to a point where
it becomes stronger than the democratic state itself.
That in it's essence is fascism: ownership of the

government by an individual, by a group or any
controlling private powers."
-- Franklin Delano Roosevelt, message to congress,
proposing the "Standard Oil" Monopoly Investigation, 1938

* The insane twist the facts to fit their world view.
* The rational change their world view to fit the facts.


- "Fascism should more properly be called
- corporatism, since it is the merger
- of state and corporate power."
-- - Benito Mussolini, father of fascism.