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On Jul 12, 1:42*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Jul 12, 2:22 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

you are citing a different problem than what we are discussing. then
you say they went under not because of the programming, but because
f.m. became popular right? you cannot have this both ways.

Brenda Ann made two NUMBERED points... one about programming, the other
about the facility. In this case, the cause of the demise of the station had
to do with it being AM when AM began dying as well as loose, uncontrolled
programming in the face of more structured and focused FMs.


you have insinuated that f.m. caused the demise of these stations,
but in my area, many moved to f.m. once they were bought out, then
came the ridged playlists. that is what we are really discussing.


And analysis of millions of listener weeks of recorded listening over
nearly
a decade shows that there is very little listening outside the 64 dbu of
FMs
at work or at home, and much of that is because the radios of the last few
decades can't pick up much of anything less than that with acceptable
quality. When I see nearly no exceptions that would validate your
contention, I must conclude that you are imagining things.


hmmmm, are you telling me that the f.m. band, cannot play a large
wide selection of music, is there something wrong with the spectrum,
it can only broadcast corporate chosen bland conservative playlists?

FMs have essentially all the music audience, so there is no issue between AM
and FM here. It is just a radio issue, with no band distinction.



nope, its a corporate mentality that limits choice.

Radio uses techniques to determine the appeal of each individual song in a
specific genre (or "format") and they play, as a rule, all the songs that
have wide appeal and don't play the ones that a significant numbers of
listeners don't want to hear. In each format, there are different numbers of
songs that tend to define these formats, in every market, often even in
different countries.



that's why people are loading up ipods with music they cannot hear on
the radio, plugging them into their radio jacks, and ignoring
corporate owned bland radio.

Country stations average in the 600 to 700 songs, Tallahassee or Spokane.
Soft ACs go from 300 to 350 songs. CHR's (today's term for Top 40) around
120. And so on. The reason there are no more is that listeners as a group
don't like any more songs, no matter how deep the research goes.


corporate research is so good. or, is it that corporate research only
chooses what the corporation makes money on.


And every so often there is a station that plays 1500 songs in a 700 song
format, and dies, proving the rule. The reason playlists are the size they
are is that the listeners who selected the songs indicated that that was all
they liked enough to play.


you ignore what is going on, on the internet.