Art Unwin wrote:
On Sep 3, 12:36 pm, Mike Luther wrote:
Hi Unwin!

Art Unwin wrote:
No. I am just exposing the so called self perceived experts on this
group to the outside world and I enjoy every bit of it. The talking
heads have no idea of the silent readers
that are laughing at you and your ignorance.
The things even skilled observers of this force seem to understand can be even
more subtle than at first thought! Most of us tend to 'view' things and
'solve' problems in two dimensions. That person is in my face or I'll just
flank attack this, said in humor here. But even a very skilled and observant
person, for example, gains a really more interesting perspective of life and
everything around them when .. for the first time .. they solo fly an airplane!

The average person takes about six to eight hours of dual instruction to get to
the level of awareness at which it is safe for the flight instructor to let the
student go it alone. Just before takeoff when at the practicing takeoff and
landing routine is going on, just before takeoff, "Well, your good enough at
this to do it on your own! Take it around the pattern by yourself!" And the
flight instructor pops off his seat belt, opens that right side door of the
aircraft in a Cessna 140 or 150, for example. Gets out and slams the door shut
and walks away!

The average student is so thrilled and whatever at this he or she just jams in
the throttle and away it goes! But then even the most capable candidate
suddenly has a different perspective of things when as the get set for their
first solo landing. as they are looking down into the whole space between them
and the approach end of the runway, it hits!

It's the first time they ever have really had to make a life or death decision
in more than two dimensions! Height is totally involved here too. Suddenly,
even though they don't realize it, they are dealing with the third level of
infinities. You can have an infinite number of points in a line. But since
you can have an infinitive number of lines in a plane that means the second
order of infinity is so defined! And .. surprise .. you can have in an
infinite number of planes in a cube or sphere, so there is, for the first time,
life or death, the experience of their total involvement in level three of
infinity. Plus since time is the fourth level of infinity, when the wheels
touch the pavement and the student completes this once in a life time
experience, their life will NEVER be the same again.

For the rest of their life they will begin solving problems and understanding
what is said, displayed, posted in a discussion, all by looking down into the
scenario. And once this is done, you can NEVER go back again to the person you
were before this event.

And no, computer games and flight simulators don't do it, unless the simulator
can kill you if you make a mistake, grin! It has to be the real thing. Every
Peregrine Falcon knows when to turn lose in the dive of love, as far as I've
ever known, chuckle.

But that also doesn't mean you know everything about force problems to which
you are presented, grin! Yes, I was the Chief Flight Instructor for Texas
Airmotive Company at Easterwood Airport in College Station, Texas, during much
of Viet Nam. And I had to ride at least once with all the Texas Aggies who
were trying to become pilots as part of their path into the future of life.
Which, incidentally included such people as Robert Barr, one of the pilots for
the US Air Force One and what became some 47 US generals. In my humble view
all because they jumped forward to multi-dimension problem solving.

But .. that doesn't mean even at this level of perspective you see all that
confronts you, grin.

I never realized for more than a decade later, how this issue of Coriolis Force
is far more important to all living things than I suspect even many of us here
have understood. As, much later at this, the CEO for the manufacturer of
Hanover Trailers here in Bryan, Texas, the actual marketing main vector for the
introduction of all the gooseneck cattle and small utility trailers in all the
USA, I learned lots more, I think. Notice I said, "I think." No, the original
gooseneck small utility trailer was originally created by James Batchler of
Throckmorton, Texas, in 1936. But even as it vectored out into the Hanover
Trailer in the 1940's and mushroomed into tons of other manufacturers, it was
the custom horse trailer versions of this which revealed something else to me
about Coriolis Force.

Yes, I knew the toilet water runs around the bowl one way on the North side of
the Equator up here in the USA. And the other direction down in Australia.
But I kept getting asked to build trailers for horse owners for more than two
horses with stalls at an angle! The head of the horse was asked to be toward
the left side of the trailer. The stall gate was angled back on the right side
so the horses were stalled all with their heads forward and to the left! Teir
rear ends behind them and to the right. I asked, "Why?" I was told, "It's
simple, Mike! A normal horse is right footed. If they go to fall, they always
start to put their right front hoof out first to give then the best chance of
handling the situation."

Hmmmmmmmmm. Interesting. As a human, do a little research. I think you will
find that, just as most humans are right-handed, we tend to start walking or
running with our right foot also! Hmmmmmm. Interesting. So I started
looking down into the problem and yes, dogs and cats do to! Why? Well, if you
peek down into all this, all vertebrates seem to be right sided, I think.

Duhh .. then why? I speculate. Well, if all vertebrate life is somehow
related over all these eons, is this because all current life forms sort of
focus on evolution on the planet from one side of the Equator? And they swim
looking for food kind of right sided so they don't have to fight the average
Coriolis Force against it for the best chance at eating easiest? And so on?
And does this really mean that this is really all 'proof' that even the humans
came from what was most efficiently evolving in the march of life traveling the
the fourth dimension that we need? Even for huge numbers of generations?

And might be even more of an explanation why there is still so much fuss going
on between even very brilliant and skilled engineers who may not even ever see
the real issues of why things seem to be different between them, or the need to
do everything we can to go forward with the least confusion and flanking
amongst us all?

For what is going to become of all this Coriolis Force issue, perhaps, on
December 21, 2012, and who will be in the right doing what for all us humans
and so on at that time?

Chortle!

--

-- Sleep well; OS2's still awake!

Mike Luther

Mike I agree. A bullet has a three dimensional force so that it can
attain a straight line trajectory, the same that a radiated partical
must have for a straight line trajectory.

Bullets arc, they don't go in a straight line. A bullet shot straight
and level will hit the ground at the same time as a bullet dropped from
the same height. That describes an arc that is proportional to the
velocity of the bullet.

While we're at it, the coriolis force water down the drain difference
between southern and northern hemisphere is an urban myth. While there
can be some effect on the rotation, frictional and initial conditions
are so much greater that the coriolis effect is measurable, but it isn't
the reason the water is going down a certain way.



humans must determine as what can be equal and opposite. With in the
earth's boundary we must recognise the existance and the impact of the
Coriolis force in our every day life including the need for spin on a
projectile so that it may attain a straight line trajectory.

Most people believe that the spin on a bullet acts as a Gyroscopic
stabilization. It's not a demonstration of coriolis force. If the bullet
actually were to use the coriolis force, would it not have to be
rotating at a rate equal but opposite? Which of course means that the
rifling on a rifle would need to be opposite between southern and
northern hemispheres, and at the equator would need to have no rifling
at all, or if you used a gun from one of the other hemisphere, the
bullet would have a tendency to either oppose gravity by traveling up,
or would almost immediately slam into the ground.


A space
rocket succumbs to the Coriolis effect by turning slowly while it is
attaining height as well as when it escapes from earths boundary where
it uses centrifugal force or spin.


We turned, not the rocket.



Radio is in the stage of two dimension the same as the human race when
they stated man was never meant to fly purely because they object to
change of the existing perspectives
as Gallilao found out to his cost among others.

Most folks believe that the coriolis force is applied in instances of
inertia, and not from an identifiable source, so an antenna, which is
radiating a non-accelerating EM radiation with an inertial point of
reference, isn't affected by such.

- 73 de Mike -