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Old September 29th 09, 02:19 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
Nick Danger Nick Danger is offline
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Default (OT) No more land line phone lines in America.

D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 9/28/09 16:58 , Nick Danger wrote:


D. Peter Maus wrote:

ATT has so far presented no documents relating to this, but when my
g/f had her U-Verse installed, they cut the copper and removed the
drop from the building.


On 9/28/09 13:30 , Nick Danger wrote:

This is quite puzzling...what did they replace the drop with? Another
piece of copper? Fiber? Or, when you say "building", do you mean a
large
apartment complex, large enough to support/justify its own V-rad?


D. Peter Maus wrote:

Building--The house. Private residence. They ran a data line, removed
the analog copper. Replaced one drop with another.


Huh? Ran a "data line"? Whatever do you mean by that? You really haven't
addressed the issue or defined the problem. Do you mean a -fiber- "data
line" or a -copper- "data line"?



Replaced twisted pair with Cat 6.


So? Cat 6 IS copper "twisted pair", albeit with a very tight twist.

In other areas, they're replacing twisted pair with fibre.


They are replacing a lot of -trunk- cable with fiber. As stated
previously, I would be surprised if they are feeding each and every home
with fiber due to the great expense of providing an optical to
electrical conversion at each house.

You seemed to be all in a tizzy that they "cut the copper".

When ATT installs U-Verse, around here, the first thing they do is cut
the copper.


It sounds to me that they just replaced it with another piece of copper.
If they were just replacing the old drop (which may have been defective,
full of squirrel bites or whatever) with a new drop, what's the problem
with that?



You're being obtuse. Maybe this will help:

They removed the analog phone line.


To be correct, eliminate confusion and be less obtuse, you should have
stated that they were removing analog phone *service*, not 'line'. A Cat
6 'line' will work just fine for analog service.

As a presumably technical person, I'm sure you can appreciate the value
of using the correct terminology and providing a clear description of
the problem.

And replaced it with part of a
digital voice, data, tv bundle.


As stated by another poster, this would seem to be grounds for going to
your state utilities commission.

No analog phone. Period.


By "digital voice" and "no analog phone", do you mean they are FORCING
you to use VOIP (voice over internet protocol), the only kind of
'digital' voice provided by the telco.? If so, off to the Commission.