On Nov 14, 3:14*pm, dave wrote:
John Galt wrote:
dave wrote:
Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:

Freedom is Libertarian, and it may be gone for ever, Socialism has never
worked and was extinct before it ever lived.

What? *Don't tell the Europeans.

Why not? They're not socialist. They're social democracies.

HUGE difference.

JG

"...modern social democracy has deviated from socialism, and supports
the idea of a mixed economy which incorporates elements of both
socialism and capitalism.[2] Social democrats aim to reform capitalism
democratically through state regulation and the creation of programs
that work to counteract or remove the social injustice and
inefficiencies they see as inherent in capitalism. A product of this
effort has been the modern democratic welfare state. This approach
significantly differs from traditional socialism, which aims to replace
the capitalist system entirely with a new economic system characterized
by either state or direct worker ownership of the means of production.

- In many countries, social democrats continue to exist alongside
- democratic socialists, who stand to the left of them on the
political
- spectrum. The two movements sometimes operate within the same
political
- party, such as the Brazilian Workers' Party[3] and the French
Socialist
- Party. In recent years, several social democratic parties (in
- particular, the British Labour Party) have embraced more centrist,
Third
- Way policy positions. This development has generated considerable
- controversy..."
-source-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy