Bob, K6RTM wrote: 
"Discones are covered in section 8.37 and log periodics are covered in 
section 8.21." 
 
In my 3rd edition of the RSGB VHF/UHF Manual, the discone is on page 
7.28 and the log periodic is on page 7.35. 
 
Bob also wrote: 
"The take-off angle increases with the frequency." 
 
In my experience, the vertical angle of maximum radiation, in general, 
decreases with antenna height above the earth, when the height of the 
antenna in is not over 5/8 wavelength. 
 
Increasing the frequency used with an antenna of fixed height is 
equivalent to increasing the height of an antenna using a fixed 
frequency because it is a function of antenna height above the 
reflecting surface in terms of wavelength. It is all a matter of scale. 
At double the frequency, an antenna only needs half the physical height 
to be the same elevation above ground to have the same elevation in 
terms of wavelength. Soil conductivity and depth of penetration in the 
earth are being ignored in the comparison for simplicity. It`s no big 
deal. 
 
A 1/2-wave horizontal dipole erected 1/4-wave over good earth has its 
maximum radiation toward the zenith. The same antenna elevated to 
1/2-wave above the earth has a take-off angle near 30 degrees above the 
horizon. 
 
When antenna height exceeds 5/8 wavelength, added lobes appear in the 
vertical radiation pattern. The additional lobes appear in the vertical 
radiation patterns of vertical antennas too when their heights exceed 
5/8-wavelength. It is for this reason that AM broadcast stations usually 
limit their towers to no more than 5/8-wavelength. Sky wave propagation 
could produce substantial interference with the ground wave signal at 
relatively short distances at night from the high-angle radiation. 
 
In a sense Bob is correct in that some of the take-off angle increases 
with frequency, in that it produces growth of additional lobes in the 
take-off pattern. 
 
Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI 
 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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