On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:17:02 -0500, "John Agosta"
wrote:


"Joe from Kokomo" wrote in message
...

Maybe they will try Clinton for that as soon as they try
Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz for lying us into two fake wars.
History will show that Bush et al failed America in those dark days.

I understand your feelings for the scores killed at Waco. Now if only
you could work up some sympathy for the *thousands* of American troops
and *tens of thousands* of civilians maimed and killed by W's folly.

On 4/24/2010 6:51 PM, Cicero Venatio wrote:

Bush fought for oil, Clinton executed the Davidians simply because they
absolutely refused to kneel before him.

Bush fought for oil??? You may be right, that -may- have been the real
reason, but as far as I know, that was NEVER publicly admitted to by the
Bush administration -- essentially the American public was lied into two
phony wars (that we are STILL paying the price for).

Anyway, even if Bush did do it "for oil", are you implying that Bush gets
a free pass to kill thousands of Americans and tens of thousands of
innocent civilians just because it was "for oil"? Does oil justify that?

...absolutely refused to kneel before him.

Well, I'm not sure about that. It may have had more to do with the
Davidians having illegal weapons. The fire appeared to be
accidental/unintentional. I don't think the ATF or Bill Clinton overtly
planned on having a fire. The government probably would have been
perfectly happy if the Davidians honored the ATF legal search warrant.

Finally, let's be pragmatic...

Yes, the 86 bogus Waco deaths were sad, even though accidental and not
specifically planned.

However, Bush DID overtly plan the two bogus wars.

86 accidental deaths versus tens of thousands of deaths that we the people
were lied into. So, you tell me, who is the bigger criminal, Clinton or
Bush?

If you think Clinton should be tried for those 86 deaths, well, fair
enough. But then I'm contending that Bush should be tried for the tens of
thousands of deaths he lied us into.


Good post.

It is for those of you with selective memories.
http://www.c-span.org/resources/pdf/hjres114.pdf
* Iraq's noncompliance with the conditions of the 1991 cease fire,
including interference with weapons inspectors.
* Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction, and programs to
develop such weapons, posed a "threat to the national security of the
United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf
region."
* Iraq's "brutal repression of its civilian population."
* Iraq's "capability and willingness to use weapons of mass
destruction against other nations and its own people".
* Iraq's hostility towards the United States as demonstrated by
the alleged 1993 assassination attempt of former President George H.
W. Bush, and firing on coalition aircraft enforcing the no-fly zones
following the 1991 Gulf War.
* Members of al-Qaeda, an organization bearing responsibility for
attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including
the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in
Iraq.
* Iraq's "continu[ing] to aid and harbor other international
terrorist organizations," including anti-United States terrorist
organizations.
* The efforts by the Congress and the President to fight
terrorists, including the September 11th, 2001 terrorists and those
who aided or harbored them.
* The authorization by the Constitution and the Congress for the
President to fight anti-United States terrorism.
* Citing the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, the resolution
reiterated that it should be the policy of the United States to remove
the Saddam Hussein regime and promote a democratic replacement.

And the left's selective memory doesn't stop there.
Clinton only responsible for the deaths of the Branch Davidians and no
one else eh?

Guess his random bombings to enforce the same UN resolutions that are
given above don't count?
Or the 100,000 plus deaths resulting from the mass bombing of the
Balkins?
Or the loss of the military lives in the farce in Somalia?
Or the bombing of innocent civilian targets by the Clinton
administration based upon faulty intel? He must have been lying as
well at the time based upon your logic.