On May 24, 11:23*pm, Cecil Moore wrote:
On May 24, 2:35*pm, Bill Baka wrote:

Now be sure to tell the researcher that. I give up on this subject,
since you all have been trained to believe that there is such a thing as
a photon. It reminds me of religious indoctrination.

After one thinks about it for awhile, one will realize that believing
in anything except physical particles is the religious faith-based
part. Can anything exist in the real world that doesn't have a
physical existence? The answer to that question is why particle
physics has become the accepted standard. Everyone who believes that
something can exist without an associated physical particle is free to
try to prove their belief but how can non-particles be measured?
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73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

I BELIEVE! Hallelujah!

Personally as an engineer i am more comfortable working with the
electro-magnetic wave representation of radio or light waves because
i work with macroscopic objects and the waves and fields are easier to
work with. But many physicists prefer photonic representations
because they work more with particle interactions and it is easier to
represent the interactions at that level with feynman diagrams and
similar mechanics. but most problems can be adequately handled by
either if you apply the right methods.