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Old June 14th 10, 01:13 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Richard Clark Richard Clark is offline
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Default what happens to reflected energy ?

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 14:08:59 -0700 (PDT), Wimpie
wrote:

This knowledge
resulted in my statement: "an RF PA isn't a 50 Ohms source", what was/
is heavily disputed by you.


Hi Wim,

Your conclusion:
"Under maximum power output matching given certain drive (not
necessarily being the maximum drive), the output impedance equals the
load resistor (the so-called "conjugated match condition")."

It was not the only conclusion, but it certainly disputes what you say
above.

Given the easy access to real amplifiers available to Hams at their
own bench, and further given that they do not present any more
complexity than your own simulation; then I have to wonder why we have
wandered into strange topologies.

I am not interested in trying to follow 23 pages of dense presentation
where you could have simulated Walt's finals, validated or rejected
his data, and THEN formed your own conclusions. If this is a problem
of simulation (you don't have that tube handy) what about topology?

It looks more like a link coupled tank circuit from pre-WWII days. The
Tank Q looks to be non-existent. When I rummage through the paper I
find 4.4! This is certainly beyond the standard for PA design - and
we have swapped out of the tube into a mosfet (would you care to stick
to one objective?). Elsewhere (wandering back in tubes) I find a
value of 10.3 (elsewhere it is 11) which inhabits the lowest margin of
good design. Then an itinerant report of a cathode tank (????) whose
Q is 0.44. Q appears to be of little concern.

Again, typical Ham equipment shows Q as low as 10 - maybe, and that
would be for a dog; but those that I have seen typically fall around
15, sometimes 20. As the Z transformation in plate/drain circuits
varies by the square of Q, this is not inconsequential and it once
again has me wondering why the strange topology?

No, your paper lacks focus by trying to be all things (tubes, mosfets,
Class AB, Class C). You examine the most inconsequential details as
if they were equally important as those details that bear on your
concern. The paper lacks structure. Headings are nothing more than
feature descriptions, not argument development. There is a lot of
discussion of the idiosyncrasies of simulation - I am not interested
and that discussion creates the impression of hidden errors. Really,
this stuff goes into an appendix not as the object of the narrative.
The graphs are pretty diversions, but they don't add much. In the
software industry, this is spaghetti design.

I would prefer a conventional topology. I suppose that has come
through clear. Pick one significant point, re-edit this into 4 pages
and then you might have something interesting. This advice comes from
one of our American writers, Mark Twain:
"If I had more time, I would have written you a shorter letter."

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC