On 3 jul, 21:00, Richard Clark wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 16:13:27 -0700 (PDT), lu6etj
wrote:

Hi, hi, I do not quite understand/translate your jokes: do you dislike
Resnick's "granularity"? I think it is a sort of energy acne :)

Hi Miguel,

Good joke. *Others may not be aware that Buenos Aires is one among
cities that have the highest psychiatrist to population ratio in the
world. *To set the record straight, Seattle has a very high suicide
rate. *This in no way intimates that you are crazy and I am about to
off myself (this may disappoint some that drawl).

You said you could hear an insect shooting your window then I asked
you if you can hear sound 80 dB below insect shooting your window.

You presented the analogue of car vs mosquito. *You expressed the
magnitude of difference. *I disputed neither, accepted them, showed
that the difference(s) could be perceived. *Why add a new variable? If
you are not, are you challenging your own analogue?

80
dB example it is only a about difference (quotient) of magnitudes. Or
you do not read well or I not write well my sentences -the last has a
probability of *0,99- :)

You are now extending it to 160dB of difference.

As I said, you either have your magnitudes inverted, or are now mixing
metaphors. *The argument is in failure mode. *This is invariably the
fate of metaphor/analog/allegory when it is forced to replace simple
math for observable and demonstrable science.

To touch on allegory, the snake in Eden (read Texas) introduced
analogues (read Hallelujah - let there be Photons!) and seduced (read
perverted) logic to obtain mastery over creation (read RRAA). *

Don't blame the guy with the horn. *:-)

Certainly, my book is in spanish, the original is "Physics" Vol II,
Extended version, 4th ed. ISBN 0-471-54804-9 (I do not have it), read
from here. Yes, it is dated 1992 a little old, doesn't it?.

Not too many of us get new copies from the future, so I am not
particularly upset about its copyright date.

so... can
we today measure quantum acne from large scale 3,5 MHz oscillator at
room temperature?

Did you miss my comments about noise floor? *Can you breath,
unassisted, under water? *Does a tree make a noise when it topples on
the Moon? *Can you feel the tingle of 110VAC when you are being struck
by lightning? *Do these questions sound like Cecileo? *(As I have long
ago blocked his postings, I assume our newsgroup victim has at least
once made an allusion to his torment by the inquisition.)

There are 10,000 ways to fail and you found at least one that was
documented. *I showed you an equal number of success (1) and that is
unsatisfactory. *Could it be answered that between the two examples
that one exhibits a huge S+N/N? *In other words, why at:room temperature?

Do you have a New York flight to catch to solve the Financial crisis?
Plan on the next flight out tomorrow and cool the room down.

(Use caution to answer me because your words can
turn against us and someone may be tempted to postulate "The
uncerntainty VSWR principle" and rots all here :D *)

"However your VSWR may vary, no Standing Waves were interfered with in
the making of this response."

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Hi hi, Why I find it more hard to translate your writings than another
guys ones? is it a peculiarity of your playing with words or your zone
manners? I am sorry because I miss some of your subtleties or
grammatical tricks and I suspect they have more funny meanings that I
can capture :)

I believe what we have more here are psychoanalysts not psychiatrists
(I read something about it time ago), but do not worry I am a little
crazy too! :)

Look, my first idea example was compare difference in marbels size
with hydrogen atom size (about 10^8) to point to granularity, but
inmediately I realized that dealing with differences in size was not a
correct example and turn to Ec example. You said our retinas sometimes
can perceive individual light photons, no? then I pointed to an eigty
meters photon had 10^-8 smaller energy than green photon.
I was telling we are talking about truly classics system therefore
quantum effects (photon) it is useless because in our level of
discussion oscillators/transmitters do not manifest quantum effects
because its very high quantum numbers Of course I know (do I know?,
really?, mmm) correspondence principle.

Why at room temperature? Do we see if I understood your question... at
room temperature because we Hams usually make our TL Bird Truline
measurements at room temperatures. Answer this your question? (my
freezer do not go beyond -20 Celcius degrees!). Theorical/extreme
cases are welcomed too but... to rebut normal/standard situations?
I do not believe you has blocking Cecil posts, no no, you say it = we
have a lot of psychoanalysts he one of them are whispering to my
ear just now, you really like him, remember TV series: "The odd
couple"? :D
......
(You see?, I'm lost with some interesting sentences such "However your
VSWR may vary, no Standing Waves were interfered with in the making of
this response." If tomorrow I find my london friend I ask his helping
to translate better your entire post :) )

73, and now being 23:31 I will take my girlfriend LU2ET to a night
trip motorcycle by the city. Well... 2ET has been my XYL for over
thirty years :)
Have you a really nice motorcycle as Cecil? eh?