On 09/14/2010 03:30 PM, dave wrote:
f. barnes wrote:
On Sep 13, 4:18 pm, Day wrote:



Then look at the school reports
athttp://normessasweb.uark.edu/schoolperformance/School/School.php
REPEATEDLY, you see ZERO rates of violence. Drop out rates in the single
digits, graduation rates near or over 90%, 95% attendance.

And the liberals call us ignorant, uneducated, rednecks, and they
won't believe a word you've posted.

I totally believe him. Sounds like a delightful place.

He says there's no violence in schools, but also brags that parents hit
their children, another form of violence.
Both primate field studies and neurological lab work reveal that pain
will alter the hormone profile. You can do the same with drugs, but I
dunno of any longitudinal study on the ultimate effect of people who
grew up on Ritalin or whatever.

But history, all the way back to the Roman Stoics, is full of examples
of pain being properly applied to, as we now know, lower the
testosterone level and reduce the impulsivity caused by adrenalin, and
make the boy pay attention. They didnt have ADD problems then, and I
dont see it now among the farm boys who know where the woodshed is.

Robt Kaplan, in his study of the military, "Imperial Grunts" reports
that half the Green Berets grew up on family farms. You'd think the
Brass would notice, but they are too busy with deals for the military
industrial complex.

The fundamental diff I see that is not picked up on is that pain that is
inflicted without self control is abuse, but with it, is a time tested
method of adjusting attitudes. Course, you can adjust attitudes with
meth also.

As for the snide remark about getting a D in gym, it shows ignorance of
what modern farm life is like now. You dont stay in the family business
by being that stupid. Agribusiness and govt policy has driven all but
the most diligent and intelligent family farms out of business. That has
something to do with why these hill towns have grades that are 1/2 year
ahead of the national average.

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