On Sep 15, 12:42*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
On Sep 15, 8:35*am, Grendel wrote:

First:
For the statement to be even close to accurate, it would have to be
morally reprehensible to spank a child, and it is far from it. *You
may not agree with it, but your narrow viewpoint does not dictate the
morals for everyone. (and before you ask, I have found the need to
spank my children.)

Then you are unethical,

That is not for you to say. (and I left out the work 'not', as I have
never spanked my children.)

and YES I can make that statement, which is
different from dictating it (*Learn* the difference if learning is
within your ability). *

You can make any statement you like, that does not make it resemble
anything near to reality.

Tough **** if you don't like it, you brutal
*******.

Brutal? Just to idiots on the usenet. *******? Not likely...

Second:
The following activities that involve physical contact would have to
be banned on moral grounds, also:
-Football
-Rugby
-Lacrosse
-Water polo
-Wrestling
-Martial Arts
-Taekwondo,
-Jujutsu,
-Karate
-Ice hockey,
-Boxing of all kinds,
-Consensual S&M sex.
-Friendly wrestlling matches
---Just to name a few

Lousy analogy... all of these things are VOLUNTARY,

Ah, but YOU DID NOT SPECIFY that in your original statement. Let me
remind you that your statement was "It is wrong to strike another,
except when in fear of immediate threat to life and limb." You didn't
leave any room for any 'voluntary' or 'incindentals' in it.

Thus, making it a bull**** statement.

unlike your
child's sad acceptance of his terrible fate at the hand of a person
who *supposedly* loves him. *Your lack of not-so-subtle discernment is
noted. *Do you bash your wife around that too? *Is that yourway of
showing how much you love her?

I dont' bash anyone (except for occasionally bashing some idiot over
the head with his own 'logic'). My wife's first marriage was abusive,
so she is understandably parnoid about such. She would have never
married me if I had been abusive in any form (rightly so). Any man
who hits his wife in anger is a low-life who should be put to death.
The same with as with any parent to hits a child in anger or abuses
them in any way.

A spanking to get a child's attention is not abuse.

Third:
The following activities that MIGHT RESULT in physical contact would
have to be banned on moral grounds:
-Baseball
-Basketball
-Field hockey
-Netball
-Squash
-Golf
-Jogging
-Children playing (would have to ban playgrounds also...dangerous
places)
-Any sex, period (which you obviously are not familiar with).
-Walking down the street.
-Going outside your house at any time.
---Just to name a very few.

Again, ALL voluntary. *Just how stupid are you?

Again, you did not have any such qualifications in your original
statement. Go back and read what you wrote. You did not state that
itis wrong to strike another, expecp when in fear of immediate life
and limb OR if they are okay with it OR can reasonably see the
possibility. You stated that it is wrong to strike another, except
when in fear of immediate threat to life and limb. Well, I'm sure that
some golfer does not think that getting beaned with a club when he
gets too close to a swing as 'being in fear of immediate threat to
life and limb', so using your 'logic' it should be banned.

Might as well outlaw that entire 'Right to Assemble', too, as their's
always the possibility you might accidentally bump into someone.

Idiots.

My God - what planet are your from? *You compare voluntarily playing a
game for fun to getting abused by your parents,

We're not talking about 'getting abused by your parents'. We're
talking about spanking, or corporal punishment, if you will. I
suggest you look up the definition of 'corporal punishment' before you
start throwing around words such as 'abuse' (and no, they are not
synonymous).

I'm sure you find some parent who allowed his or her child to become
horribly burned by tipping over a boiling pot of water morally
superior that the parent who smacked the childs hand and said "NO"
when he/she reached for the pot. That'll learn the little *******.

and you have the balls
to call someone else an idiot? *

Now, don't sell yourself short. You're not just "someone". You're
speical. You're a TOTAL idiot.

Yol Bolsun,
Grendel.

"I'm not cynical, just experienced."