On Jan 3, 2:48Â*am, RHF wrote:
On Jan 2, 1:16Â*pm, Sheldon Cooper wrote:



On Dec 27 2010, 9:56Â*pm, RHF wrote:

On Dec 27, 9:32Â*pm, Sheldon Cooper wrote:

On Dec 27, 5:14Â*pm, Neoconis_Ignoramus
wrote:

On Dec 27, 4:48Â*pm, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:

The California Energy Commission in September 2010 published its 226-
page Appliance Efficiency Regulations, whereby the 100-watt
incandescent light bulb will be outlawed at midnight on December 31,
2010.

Imagine 100-watt incandescent light bulbs as contraband in California
-- persona non gratis -- but illegal immigrants get free tuition --
amigo de bienvenida.

Smuggling bootleg light bulbs into California would be a piece of
cake. Â*Just stuff them inside bales of marijuana. Â*Or line up eight
packs in the cargo bays of Greyhound buses carrying illegals on the
express lane from Tijuana to any of two dozen sanctuary cities. Â*Hey,
wave 'em on in, there's nothing to check there! Â*Ten-four!

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...bs_coming_to_c...

I see no diff in incandescent vs. flourescent. Â*The latter lasts a lot
longer, too. Â*Bunch of whining by poor mothe****ers who apparently
can't afford to splurge the extra 2 bones for the better bulb.

- Yeah, I remember when you assholes said the same sort of thing about
- Ethonal. Â*It was going to be better for the environment, it was
going
- to make America energy independent. Â*It was going to be great.

- - At 5% Ethanol a 20 Gallon Tank of Gas has
- - 19 Gals of Imported Oil and 1 Gal of Domestic
- - Ethanol : That One Less Gal of Imported Oil
- - and I am OK with that. Â*IMHO - The USA
- - should be moving to 85% Gas-A-Hol to reduce
- - Imported Oil by another 10%. ~ RHF

It takes 21 pounds of corn to make a gallon of Ethanol, which needs
imported oil to be grown and harvested. Â*Imported oil is also needed
to convert corn into Ethanol.

Nah - Most of the time Natural Gas

Really? The tractors that plow the corn fields run on natural gas?
The trucks that delivers the supplies to the farms, and carts the
produce - ALL are operated using natural gas?

from US/Canada/Mexico
is now being used not Gasoline.

The last time I checked, Mexico and Canada were foreign nations, and
thus their supply came under the heading of "imported". That's money
flowing out of the US for no good reason whatsoever.

And in regards to the gas pulled from America - why is it a good idea
to waste that gas on a scam? The point is to SAVE oil, to use LESS of
it - NOT to **** it away.

-also- Since the U.S. itself Produces 12% of the
World's Crude Oil {Domestic} from the US Territories.
I like to think that that Ethanol is being produced with
'Domestic' Crude Oil and NOT Imported Oil.
-result- All American Oil and Ethanol For America !

-also- The USA still Produces 40%~45% of It's own
'Domestic' Crude Oil with Imports making-up the rest.
I like to think that that Ethanol is being produced with
'Domestic' Crude Oil and NOT Imported Oil.
-result- All American Oil and Ethanol For America !

Assuming that your facts are correct (which I don't) you're arguing
that it's OK for Ethanol to use more energy than it saves. Why is
that a good idea, exactly?

-so- My All American Car/Truck runs-on Domestic Gas
-while- Your Imported Auto runs-on Imported Oil.
-translation- Me Good = You Bad ;;-}}

The last time I checked, my GM counts as an American car. Oh, wait,
do you love talking about things you don't know anything about, don't
you?

-but- Keeping Chanting the Evil catch-phase "Imported Oil"
and trying to Demonize Home Grown All American Ethanol.

Yeah, Ethanol is made is America - in the same sense that Bernie
Madoff was born in Queens. Being local doesn't excuse the fact that
it's a fraud.

Ehtanol is a failure in very level. It doesn't save oil or gas,
domestic or imported. It doesn't cost the consumer less. It's not
particularly good for engines.

It's good for the owners of a couple of mega farms that grown corn.
It's bad for the rest of America. It's disastrous for the people of
Mexico.

Let My Chant Be : DRILL HERE ! DRILL NOW ! :
YEAH - JUST DRILL BABY ! [US Crude Oil]

Yeah, we're not doing that, because "wind power" and Ethonal will save
us.

(snicker)

Let My Chant Be : GROW HERE ! GROW NOW ! :
YEAH - JUST GROW BABY ! [US Ethanol]

-Â*I've linked a site which explains the numbers,

Big Oil Company 'Numbers' = Lies
-a-la- Al Gore the Carbon Credits Shill

- but the end result is that Ethanol consumes
- more imported oil than it saves.

Big Oil Company 'Claims' = Gross Distortion
-a-la- Al Gore the Higher Home Energy Taxes Shill

Nah - The One Gallon of Imported Oil used to
Start-Up an Ethanol Processing Plant* is off-set
by the Ethanol Used to Fuel and keep it going.

Seeing how even Al Gore doesn't make that claim, I'm not sure where
you go to back up THAT figure.

Let My Chant Be : ETHANOL A SUSTAINABLE
NATURAL ALL AMERICAN RESOURCE.

It's a wonderful chant....as long as you remain willfully ignorant of
the facts.

Ethanol consumes more energy than it saves. A LOT more.

* The Ethanol Fuel Output Ratio to Imported Oil
is between 20~30 to 1.

-Â*Oh, and it also causes world starvation.

Yeah - Al Gore the Carbon Credits Shill and Higher
Home Energy Taxes Shill : Causes World Starvation
in Rich and Poor Countries both.

http://www.carbohydrateeconomy.org/l...edfiles/How_Mu...

There's a reason that even Al Gore has turned against this:

That's the same Al Gore that is the Carbon Credits Shill
and Higher Home Energy Taxes Shill too !

-http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/22/report-al-gore-reverses-vi...

That would be the same Al Gore Flying around in
his Private Jet : Using-up Countless Gallons of Jet
Fuel {imported Oil} and causing Massive Starvation
among the Hungry Poor Peoples of the World
-while- drinking pure ethanol cocktails
make from corn ~ RHF
Â*.
Al Gore Is A 'Carbon Credits' Eco-Criminal
{Enemy-of-the-Planet}http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...ad5a17cc423a9d
Â*.
WHY : American Home-Brewed Ethanol
Is Better Than Imported Crude Oilhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio..shortwave/msg/601a41491d4242d7
* Keeping Energy Money In The US Economy versus
Sending Cash Overseas to the Arabs and others...
Jobs + Jobs + Jobs + Jobs + Jobs + Jobs + Jobs
* Creating and Maintain Jobs In The USA For Americans
Jobs + Jobs + Jobs + Jobs + Jobs + Jobs + Jobs
* Better For The Environment {Less Toxins} Then Oil
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