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Old March 8th 11, 08:25 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Szczepan Bialek Szczepan Bialek is offline
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Default Radio waves faster than light


"tom" napisal w wiadomosci
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On 3/7/2011 11:27 AM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:
Uzytkownik napisal w wiadomosci
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On Mar 7, 8:17 am, "Szczepan wrote:
" Using such a pulse pattern makes the echo, which arrives back from the
moon 2.4 seconds later". From:http://www.rense.com/general79/haarp.htm

"During the experiment, which was carried out on Oct. 28 and 29, 2007,
the
radar signals from HAARP were at 7.4075 MHz and 9.4075 MHz"

I do not know the distance to Moon on that days but for the mean
distance
384 000 km the speed is:

384 000/2.4 = 320 000 km/s.


Should be 2x384 000/2.4 = 320 000 km/s.

Speed of light is 300 000.

But long waves travel quicker in glass. Would be the same in space?
S*


i'm glad you checked their calculation and found that obvious error...
i guess all the other radar calibrations in the world have to be
changed to account for the bialek speed effect... i wonder if that
would get you out of a radar gun speeding ticket?

Did you communications via Moon?
S*



I have, at another amateur's station, on 432 MHz. Surprisingly the speed
came out almost dead on 300m/microsecond. Used .wav file recording of
transmit and echo and a good sound file editor with sub-millisecond
resolution when zoomed.


I have checked the Moon history and now I know that on Oct. 28 2007 was
"full Moon" at perygeum. So the speed was close to 300m/microsecond.

But I am steel loking for the evidences that the speed of radio waves is
temperature and wave lenght dependant.
S*