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Old March 8th 11, 08:41 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Szczepan Bialek Szczepan Bialek is offline
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Default Radio waves faster than light


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On Mar 7, 5:22 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
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384 000/2.4 = 320 000 km/s.


Speed of light is 300 000.


But long waves travel quicker in glass. Would be the same in space?
S*


No. Maybe I don't understand the complex calculation under your quoted
division by 2.4, but....


You understand. Should be: 2x384 000 = 320 000.



Your "mean distance" have to be doubled: received *back* in 2,4 sec mean
that the signal traveled the double distance.
At minimum distance the moon is 356375 km far from earth. 356375*2 is
712750 km, that at light speed means a travel time of 2,37 sec.


The test was made at "full Moon". ""Even though lunar echoes have been
detected before at higher frequencies, it was really exciting to see them
arrive in real time out under the full moon in the New Mexico desert,"

I do not know the distance. But some radio amateur practice communication
via Moon. Have they own observations?



Any greatest distance agree with classical physics laws, and a normal
mind
don't care if the light travel faster, maybe care about the distance of
the moon at the time of test: exactly 360000 km from the earth.


Now are transmitters on the Mars. They are able to give the answer
forMaxwell. He wrote:

" " Incidentally, Maxwell once suggested that Roemer's
method could be used to test for the isotropy of light speed, i.e., to
test
whether the speed of light is the same in all directions. Roemer's method
can be regarded as a means of measuring the speed of light in the
direction
from Jupiter to the Earth. Jupiter has an orbital period of about 12
years,
so if we use Roemer's method to evaluate the speed of light several times
over a 12 year period, we will be evaluating the speed in all possible
directions (in the plane of the ecliptic). "
From:http://www.mathpages.com/home/kmath203/kmath203.htm

As you see Maxwell care if the light travel everywhere with the same
speed.

The same is with the wave lenght. Longer water waves travel faster. Is it
the same with radio waves?
S*


no

No for your (Heavisde's) paper waves.
My waves are Tesla's waves: http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1929-09-22.htm

Tesla say in 1929: " The effects, according to my view, were due to minute
particles of matter carrying enormous electrical charges, which, for want of
a better name, I designated as matter not further decomposable.
Subsequently those particles were called electrons."

The same wrote Faraday in 1846: http://www.padrak.com/ine/FARADAY1.html

I assume that the two greatest man are right.

Electrons are produced by the Sun (rare plasma +dust). They rotate with the
Sun and their temperature is place dependent. Speed of the pressure waves
must be also the place and frequency dependent.

But you do not care about that . You are fine with the EM waves. Are you?
S*