On 4/7/2011 12:53 AM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:


All real waves are asymmetric. For this reason they transport mass.


As I allowed for, they vibrate, only, which can be defined, or re-word
to "transporting matter, in place."



I prefer Faraday's idea. No aether. In space is the same as in metal.
Wibrating ions and electrons.


Nothing wrong with that. If we all seen things the same, all things
would be the same (well, virtually, anyway!)


...
In aether model aether vibrate and particles "are in place". In
Faraday's model particles vibrate and no aether between them.
...

Yes, well, there is no such thing as an "empty box." In such a box, all
the sides end up compressed against each other, obviously.


In real space no aether but ISM (rare plasma + dust).


Yes, I see, "something floating in nothing." All I see is an impossibility.


The same speed of electric disturbances in copper and light in space was
the physical examples for the idea "no aether but vibrating particles".
"I suppose we may compare together the matter of the aether and ordinary
matter (as, for instance, the copper of the wire through which the
electricity is conducted), and consider them as alike in their essential
constitution; i.e. either as both composed of little nuclei, considered
in the abstract as matter'. From: http://www.padrak.com/ine/FARADAY1.html

In above Faraday use the word aether but he explains what it is made of.
Today we say space. Space is filled with ISM.
S*

Ether severs another import avenue to explain another observed
phenomenon. How two particles can exist at the same place, at the same
time -- ether is the medium transporting the information so that this
becomes quite possible. Even makes the concept of time travel
theoretically possible, indeed, being in two times, at the same time
only appears as a possibility which exploits the same phenomenon.

Regards,
JS