On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:22:00 -0600 (CST),
(Richard Harrison) wrote:

Roy disappeared from the argument.
Yuri seems to have tired of the dispute too.

Hi Richard,

This happened more from the basis of others forcing arguments upon
them, and then proving those straw men wrong; allowing the revisionist
poster to triumph over projected stupidity.

In other words, the "debate" was whatever the last poster had framed
it to be - the resolution was whatever the last poster proclaimed it
to be. This is the legacy of Sneer Review that replaced the
examination of data, its source of errors, and the methods used to
obtain it. Clearly the circus mentality prevailed and was fed by
those criticized following the criticizers instead of letting their
work stand for itself, or fall due to its weak technical support.

The only points of interest are found in the data, and the limits of
error that surround it. Both parties were confounded by their own
narrow specifications being overwhelmed by error. Now, if they had
approached it in a true analysis that accounted for error, and
resolved that through alternative measures to cross-correlate or to
reject the statistical noise, then the merit of "debate" would have
been instructive. Instead, the problem was continually re-framed to
suit what rube-goldberg measures or latest cut-and-paste theory could
be forced to illustrate.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC